Laguna Seca 105db day! - Lateral-g Forums

**clill** · #1 09-24-2015, 01:39 PM

I spun it once in the years I owned it. For years it was one of the faster cars at the Shelby club events. Very easy to go fast in it. I sell it to

and suddenly it is a POS with all junk parts and unsafe to drive with built in spin cycle. I think the roadster has 4 flat tires.

**GregWeld** · #2 09-24-2015, 04:25 PM

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I spun it once in the years I owned it. For years it was one of the faster cars at the Shelby club events. Very easy to go fast in it. I sell it to and suddenly it is a POS with all junk parts and unsafe to drive with built in spin cycle. I think the roadster has 4 flat tires.

My guess is - having owned more than a few cars over the years.... that these things don't happen "suddenly".... They do, however, need regular maintenance... and inspection... The car was at LEAST 10 years old by the time I bought it... things do wear and fail.

I could have just replaced the shocks (a couple of which were beyond simple failure) and all the bushings (the rears were completely frozen)... and the cracked ball joint... and called it good. That's not my MO.

Let's just let it go, and say the car is improved, and I love it, and I'm glad I bought it. And I stole it, and you can't have it back.

DBasher · #3 09-24-2015, 05:09 PM

So back to the db deal....

I know the lotus has tripped the level before and Bob with his straight piped Pantera is loud. Is this a big deal that brings out cars that don't normally run or are usually restricted? Any idea what your buddies NASCAR or Chet's mustang db is?

I wonder if your mustang is any quieter with the reworked suspension....

**GregWeld** · #4 09-24-2015, 05:35 PM

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So back to the db deal....

I know the lotus has tripped the level before and Bob with his straight piped Pantera is loud. Is this a big deal that brings out cars that don't normally run or are usually restricted? Any idea what your buddies NASCAR or Chet's mustang db is?

I wonder if your mustang is any quieter with the reworked suspension....

The Lotus has a very high pitched exhaust -- and will trip the 103 db limit at Thunderhill.... I had to modify the exhaust to point UP and AWAY from the sound meter which is placed low in turn 15 there...

105 db at Laguna Seca IS a big deal - because they have very few "higher" sound limit days. OUSCI day was like a 93db limit -- that is STOCK CORVETTE sound. The big deal is that this is a track people love to run -- and NOT having to worry about sound is "nice".

I'm always blown away that the Cup cars that run with us can make sound -- when they fire up - it scares you! LOL... somehow that deep throaty sound gets away with the 103 limit at Thill.

I remember Charlie having to mod the exhaust on his '66 Mustang to pass sound...

The whole suspension discussion on the Mustang has been hashed to death... it was time for an upgrade and it got it. End of story. I loved the car before and love it more now. Done.

**GregWeld** · #5 09-24-2015, 05:42 PM

Nobody should read anything into our "banter".... I ran the Mustang for a couple of seasons before deciding to change the suspension! I had a blast driving it... it wasn't until I bought the Lotus that I even "thought" about doing anything to the Mustang.... once in there - we found lots of old worn out stuff... well DUH! The car was built in '99 or '98... WTF would anyone expect to find! 10 years of running the crap out of it... yeah... shocks and things get old and tired.

The other thing I sometimes feel like I fail to point out --- is that Sutton made the car EASIER to drive... he didn't make it (or set it up) to be the FASTEST... it's set up to be easy to drive and to be able to make mistakes and be able to recover from them.

**clill** · #6 09-24-2015, 06:30 PM

Stielow liked how it drove.....I rest my case.....................So did Jody....I rest my case again......

Stay tuned for pics of Welds parted out roadster.......when it arrives.....

**GregWeld** · #7 09-24-2015, 06:38 PM

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Stielow liked how it drove.....I rest my case.....................So did Jody....I rest my case again......

Stay tuned for pics of Welds parted out roadster.......when it arrives.....

Wait..... HOW many years ago was that?? Oh yeah -- I bought the car FOUR years ago...

DBasher · #8 09-24-2015, 06:42 PM

I remember the creativity being done at Laguna for the Optima deal, just wasn't sure what the number was.

As far as the banter, I get it and understand the bromance around here....I'd like to think I wouldn't jump on any real drama....well, maybe talk about the Miata.

Sounds like a great event and a good time with friends for the holiday, enjoy!

**GregWeld** · #9 09-24-2015, 07:02 PM

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I remember the creativity being done at Laguna for the Optima deal, just wasn't sure what the number was.

As far as the banter, I get it and understand the bromance around here....I'd like to think I wouldn't jump on any real drama....well, maybe talk about the Miata.

Sounds like a great event and a good time with friends for the holiday, enjoy!

HA!! The lonely Miata --- I haven't even retitled it yet!! It just sits in the corner of the shop like a little model car.

93db is tough to make... so restrictive!! 105db is pretty loud in comparison.

This will only be the second time I've run Laguna Seca... it's our 36th Anniversary - and Thanksgiving... it will be a great week. The area is special - not like Charlie, who is Special ED... it's hard not to want to run there and visit the area.

After beating the crap out of the '33 -- Charlie might be able to get more from the parts than the car is worth complete... I think it might need a complete repaint after this last trip.

**Sieg** · #10 09-24-2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher

So back to the db deal....

I know the lotus has tripped the level before and Bob with his straight piped Pantera is loud. Is this a big deal that brings out cars that don't normally run or are usually restricted? Any idea what your buddies NASCAR or Chet's mustang db is?

I wonder if your mustang is any quieter with the reworked suspension....

The Lotus was tripping the sound meter at T-Hill because:
- The exhaust exited low right
- The sound check station is on the right at the start of the front straight
- Due to the nature of the corner it's very easy to hit the rev limiter in 3rd and that causes a pop right next to the sound check.

It's one of the quietest cars at any event I've been to........except for that pop and the resulting 3 meatball flags which had me tip-toeing all day Sunday.