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Old 10-23-2015, 08:19 AM
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What about a Pontiac 440cid stroker? 4.185 bore x 4.00 stroke makes for some good power and torque and revs like a small block!
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Not sure that a 440 will come close.. I did one and it had
other issues but the rev was still only 6500.. I am spinning
the 495 to 6600 now with forged rods, crank, MR-1 block
splayed caps etc.. No one will tell me 8000 will work and live

Plus oiling is still marginal in the heavy turns
So winston cup tech.. knife edge crank, forged this and that
Just need to decide on cubic inches.. do I to a 358 or go smaller
or bigger

I am also trying to get the weight off the front of the car
and the MR-1 block is cool but very heavy with lifter bore
braces, caps etc.. it can go 545 inches

Bob
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Carbed LS setup with an external / aftermarket dry-sump (Dailey, A.R.E.). You get the benefit of the aluminum block, you can build any bore/stroke combination you want, and you resolve the oiling issues with the dry-sump. You get rid of most of the sensors with the carb, but you do still have to run something to drive the coils (unless you do a timing-cover distributor conversion).

Do it!
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Carbed LS setup with an external / aftermarket dry-sump (Dailey, A.R.E.). You get the benefit of the aluminum block, you can build any bore/stroke combination you want, and you resolve the oiling issues with the dry-sump. You get rid of most of the sensors with the carb, but you do still have to run something to drive the coils (unless you do a timing-cover distributor conversion).

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Completely agree!!!
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Carbed LS setup with an external / aftermarket dry-sump (Dailey, A.R.E.). You get the benefit of the aluminum block, you can build any bore/stroke combination you want, and you resolve the oiling issues with the dry-sump. You get rid of most of the sensors with the carb, but you do still have to run something to drive the coils (unless you do a timing-cover distributor conversion).

Do it!
But you still have to paint it Pontiac Baby Blue!!!

I'd love to do a carbed LS in my car with a functional Ram Air air cleaner to work with the functional Formula hood! Someday...
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Sorry to say my Pantera has had a Dart block
stroker for over 10 years now.. think I am heading
that direction..maybe a destroker.. but Dart.. not a real fan of dry sump.....

Was at one of my early Norcal Shelby events and a guy
with a beautiful flaired 67 race car.. 5 years in the making...
was out on the track and all of a sudden you could see a
big billow of smoke...his drysump belt fell off and toasted
the engine... Last open header day at Laguna the Total
Control mustang had the snout break off on the front
of the engine that held the drysump and a bunch of other
pulleys.. not sure what happened to that engine other
than a broken crank

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carb'd LS with a wet sump then. Or, 377 small block chevy. That will rev to the moon. Good luck which ever way you decide to go, Bob.
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What Trey, Greg and Bryan said. there are other benefits to the LS design (besides all the sensors and computers). Different firing order, far superior head design, different * to the block....etc. You can have Pacific Fab do the wiring for you down in Morgan Hill if you do decide you want 450hp and 23 mpg, (they used too/still sponser here?)

Mines been pretty much bullet proof once done, too bad i keep messin with it...
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