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[rustomatic]

Dan, I think we're carrying the same virus. Maybe we caught it from too many of Greg's barbecue weenies . . .

The "unlimited" thing used to be why race cars existed. Perhaps USCA is just helping to build the perfect kind of throwback forum (for building and running the craziest contraption in a kind of automotive decathlon sense). Maybe they're simply the beta version . . .

Originally Posted by DBasher

Bring on the Unlimited class!! The more I look at the Dusold Camaro the more I know that these builds need a place to run. Tube chassis, full cage, twin turbo LS7...who wouldn't want to see that run?

As long as they can complete the road portion and show that they're legal in their home state they should be able to run. Look at the draw that the ProMod "streetcars" bring at Drag Week.....trickle down engineering

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by rustomatic

The "unlimited" thing used to be why race cars existed. Perhaps USCA is just helping to build the perfect kind of throwback forum (for building and running the craziest contraption in a kind of automotive decathlon sense). Maybe they're simply the beta version . . .

I hope so! I've read that the 2016 rules will be out by the end of the year, we'll see what they come up with. I'd love to see them embrace cars like Dusolds Camaro and Pappys "thing" (that he isn't sharing any pictures of). Shoot, just on this site you could find a dozen "outlaw" style streetcars...I'd imagine some of the import and newer American muscle guys would love to see an Ultimate/Unlimited class as well.

[ironworks]

This whole thread comes up every year, It just gets long each year. We attended last year with the Chevelle, It was an extremely well ran event. I still don't understand even why we got an invite. Since we are really rookies to the event, we ran with the all show class. We can't pass and you just go parade around behind the slow car that unknowingly leads the parade. We paid them nothing and they never used any footage from us on TV. They just gave away space to let attempt to make a fool of ourselves with a 1970 Chevelle magazine cover car. They could have let guys who were way more serious participate for a bigger benefit for them selves. But they let us attend. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, we had a ball.

By the way we took my 1 year old daughter on the road rally with my wife in the back seat. If you can do that you truly have a street car.

Obviously like anything that is supposed to be fun, everyone gets really serious and wants a leg up on the competition. So as more people realize they would rather win then look cool in a stock suspension 1 gen Camaro. I have said this for years, Pro-touring is going to create to kinds of people, those who build race cars for the street and guys who think their car is capable of racing. People are now realizing that a stock C6 Vette is just as fast as well modded 1st gen Camaro. And cheaper. You don't build winning race cars with bolt on parts for very long, as some one will out think you with their welder pretty soon. If they don't make what is needed for the advantage some will make it.

Optima is trying to have an event to give these guys of different skill levels a place to kinda race. Its really not a race when there are other style and taste elements involved. But its alot of fun, but you can't have cars and track with guys you like to compete for long before some one rolls out some money to have an advantage if its allowed. USCA's job is to promote events people will attend and keep people safe and try to make a profit so they can support their own families. Rules are meant to level the playing field and try to keep people as safe as they can and their insurance requires.

Like a read in Jackass 2.0 yesterday, Stielow did not want build a muscle car on the level that it would now take to compete. I get that, the testing time and design time would kill any social life that guy might want as it will raise the bar so high. That is why you see guys running basically the same old car as that is probably now getting really well sorted after all these years.

Everyone would be much better suited to spend their money on training first. Go to every driving school you can and just drive what ever you have until it aint gonna go any faster ever. This aint Nascar, or any type of real professional racing. Heck just look at the grass roots drag racing these days. Those so called "STREET CARS" are going 3.87 in the 1/8 mile on a drag radials. But those guys will build and do what ever is needed.

[hifi875]

100% correct^^^^^. Im going to ron fellows driving school in pahrump in january. My father in law bought a new z06 w/z07pkg so he got a real sweet deal on the school. Im tagging along to keep him company and im gonna do the school in a regular c7. I know more than anyone that i need to learn how to drive. I did a track x event here at the national corvette museum motorsports park and knew immediately I was out of my league. It was very fun and scary at the same time. I just want to get better with what i got and not build a race car that you can drive on the street.

[DBasher]

I think most know that this isn't any kind of real race, more of an event to get together and run your car at whatever level you may be at. Some people go to GoodGuys, set up a chair and look at people looking at their car....uh, ok. For the folks that like to run their car in different events, this is the one to attend. (I'm talking more about the regional events then the finals in Vegas) I've seen all levels up folks running all sorts of cars. Is it for everyone? Obviously not.

It's a track day with more auto-X and speed stop then you'd get any place else. Throw in the vendors, expert drivers, an ass load of like minded people and you've got a great weekend. All that's needed is the Ultimate/Unlimited class



p.s. 1/8 mile is only half of a drag race

[So Cal Camaro]

Originally Posted by DBasher

I think most know that this isn't any kind of real race, more of an event to get together and run your car at whatever level you may be at. Some people go to GoodGuys, set up a chair and look at people looking at their car....uh, ok. For the folks that like to run their car in different events, this is the one to attend. (I'm talking more about the regional events then the finals in Vegas) I've seen all levels up folks running all sorts of cars. Is it for everyone? Obviously not.

It's a track day with more auto-X and speed stop then you'd get any place else. Throw in the vendors, expert drivers, an ass load of like minded people and you've got a great weekend. All that's needed is the Ultimate/Unlimited class



p.s. 1/8 mile is only half of a drag race

I don't see them doing an Unlimited class, as they currently don't even allow kit cars like Factory Five stuff...I could be wrong...will see soon enough

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro

I don't see them doing an Unlimited class, as they currently don't even allow kit cars like Factory Five stuff...I could be wrong...will see soon enough

Nope, you're correct. I sent a message to them asking to consider the class, the response I recieved, "We are the Ultimate Street Car Associstion. If it's a true street car, it should fit comfortably in the classes we currently have." Sounds good to me! Game on!


Pappy, the backside looks great! For some reason I thought you were building an early T-Bird...my bad. Looking forward to seeing what you've got brewin.

[mfain]

Originally Posted by DBasher

I hope so! I've read that the 2016 rules will be out by the end of the year, we'll see what they come up with. I'd love to see them embrace cars like Dusolds Camaro and Pappys "thing" (that he isn't sharing any pictures of). Shoot, just on this site you could find a dozen "outlaw" style streetcars...I'd imagine some of the import and newer American muscle guys would love to see an Ultimate/Unlimited class as well.

The "thing" ....old photo.... I'll start a thread soon since I am a lot further down the road with the project than this photo indicates.

Pappy