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Old 11-13-2015, 04:42 PM
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What front spring are you running, lb. wise and length?
How does the car ride? Soft or firm? Harsh?
What sway bar is under the front end?
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:36 PM
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What front spring are you running, lb. wise and length?
How does the car ride? Soft or firm? Harsh?
What sway bar is under the front end?
Without being under my car... Rides harsh because springs are 100% at the top. I have no idea on the springs and shocks, they are the ones that came with the kit. Sway bar, why would that matter on ride height.
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Old 11-13-2015, 06:25 PM
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First, the threads on the shock are designed so the coil spring can never reach coil bind.

So here's the facts as they've been brought up in this thread:
-headers scrape
-springs are adjusted to top of threads
-owner has no idea what spring rate is on the car (whatever was in the kit is not an acceptable answer as we tailor the spring rate to each vehicle)
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-owner feels ride quality is poor due to springs being at the top of the threads

Based these findings I'd say you don't have enough spring rate, and the low stance and poor ride quality are due to the shock being bottomed out.

That car uses a 3.6" stroke shock with a 2.0" tall stud top. So distance from upper spring hat (on stock sub) to lower mounting bolt should be around 12.1 inches. Lower control arms should be parallel to ground (draw a line from inner frame mounting point to ball joint.)

Please provide this measurement and we'll go from there.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:32 PM
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I have to wonder if the springs are installed correctly on the shocks. Do you have any pics of the shocks as they are installed in the car? Something just doesn't sound right.
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sounds like you need a new driveway.

Seriously, I would find the offending parts of the car and move them.

Tell us more about your set up.maybe a picture of the car from the side.
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Would have replied sooner but I've been busy at work... Here's the best pics I think for what your asking.







Car has Tru turn up front bmr watts link torque arm rear... As you can see it's very very low. Norfolk streets are horrible and the streets on base aren't much better, with lots of speed bumps. Excuse my ignorance on spring principles etc, but any help is badly needed. Where can I find the spring rate on the spring? I bought these a while back, and a lot of life and several deployments have happened since then so I have no idea what the rate is. Bought directly from ride tech.
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Usually the spring rate number is on the spring itself. I bet a call to ridetech will verify what ones you were sent. I originally had 650s on the front but replaced them with 700s after my first autocross. The 650s rode great on the street but after my first autocross I was concerned with no adjustability (up- ore ride height) due to running out of threads. After swapping in the 700s and they sent me another lower mount (the part to goes between the spring and the nut) that gives you more (space). I haven't notcied any ride difference between the 650s and 700s after going a couple of clicks softer on the adjustment.

Just curious, what is the measurement between the ground and your subframe? I have about 4.5" and my headers hang down another .5" giving me 4 inches of clearance. I have not had any clearance issues in normal driving. Another thing you might look at is how are your motor mounts bolted on? There was a thread on this board about depending on how they were orientated your engine would either sit higher or lower. If I remember right, if the mounts were installed with the single bolt up and the 2 bolts down, the motor would sit higher (giving you more header ground clearance).
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Yes sir, she's low! You should have a number etched into your coil over spring like this...if not, it will be scribed into the top (ground flat part) of the spring.
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Without being under my car... Rides harsh because springs are 100% at the top. I have no idea on the springs and shocks, they are the ones that came with the kit. Sway bar, why would that matter on ride height.
I'd agree with RideTech and guess that you have the wrong spring under the front. I asked about sway bar, to only see if you knew the rate. Most people have no idea what their sway bar rate is, and being as how you don't know the shock length, OR the coil spring rating, I'd guess you don't know the bar rating...nothing at all to do with ride height. Most questions like this one come from people that simply don't know what they have under their cars.
If I were you, I'd pull the front shock/springs out, and visually see what you have, and then I'd make a call to RideTech. They will fix your issues.
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