DSE vs. SpeedTech Performance. . .

[badazz81z28]

How does the DSE frame reflect in your comments? Are you seeing rack issues on their frame or handling issues?

[Vegas69]

Your question was answered.

Many variables come into play. For starters, the power steering pump, cooler, fluid, compound, temperature, etc...

Is a mustang 2 rack made for racing?

I loved my DSE subframe. I think you own one, it's a great piece.

[alongfortheride]

Just a note I have a Speedtech Extreme subframe. I currently have an autocraft oil pan which fits fine on my lsa. I am also running a stock ctsv accessory drive.With low mount ac using the small vintage air compressor

[GregWeld]

This whole discussion reminds me of so many others. Everyone has an opinion. Everyone has a favorite.

The DSE is years old - nothing wrong with it - but it's not much different than discussing C4 vs C5 vs C6 and now the newest C7....

When the C4 came out it was the best thing going... Now? It's still good - but not great. When the C8 comes out - it SHOULD be an improvement over the C7

The SpeedTech ExtReme is the newest - fresh design - best geometry currently available...

There will never be a same model - same horsepower - same configuration - same driver - same day - same track "battle" that will satisfy someone that wants to own a DSE part... Or for that matter, a SpeedTech product. The magazine "tests" all cloak their reviews with BS so they don't offend an advertiser... and in most cases of multiple product tests "many" advertisers.

In the end - a crap driver with great products in a well sorted car... will finish back of the pack. A great driver with a half assed POS will probably be up near the front. I've run with Miata's I can barely keep up with... I've run right past ZR1's (shaking my head).

Do your homework - base a purchase on product, service, delivery, after the sale service, parts combo you intend to use. Then make a choice and build the car accordingly. Drive it and have fun. By the time you're half way thru the process there will be 10 newer products out that make your's look antique.


And the debate continues.... LOL

[Che70velle]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

This whole discussion reminds me of so many others. Everyone has an opinion. Everyone has a favorite.

The DSE is years old - nothing wrong with it - but it's not much different than discussing C4 vs C5 vs C6 and now the newest C7....

When the C4 came out it was the best thing going... Now? It's still good - but not great. When the C8 comes out - it SHOULD be an improvement over the C7

The SpeedTech ExtReme is the newest - fresh design - best geometry currently available...

There will never be a same model - same horsepower - same configuration - same driver - same day - same track "battle" that will satisfy someone that wants to own a DSE part... Or for that matter, a SpeedTech product. The magazine "tests" all cloak their reviews with BS so they don't offend an advertiser... and in most cases of multiple product tests "many" advertisers.

In the end - a crap driver with great products in a well sorted car... will finish back of the pack. A great driver with a half assed POS will probably be up near the front. I've run with Miata's I can barely keep up with... I've run right past ZR1's (shaking my head).

Do your homework - base a purchase on product, service, delivery, after the sale service, parts combo you intend to use. Then make a choice and build the car accordingly. Drive it and have fun. By the time you're half way thru the process there will be 10 newer products out that make your's look antique.


And the debate continues.... LOL

This is the most true statement you will ever read on any car forum...Well done Greg!

[Vegas69]

Good points Obe One.

I like something that has been engineered, tested, tried and is true.

Has the Extreme frame been tested extensively?

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Good points Obe One.

I like something that has been engineered, tested, tried and is true.

Has the Extreme frame been tested extensively?

WE have been driving the C10 which is virtually identical. We have done a couple auto crosses with it and the Optima event. Extensively??? more is always better, Rogers 69 will be done the transformation in a week and that will also then be tested.
It was tested it ALOT during design, production and a lot of installs so we know the fit is good, the construction is beyond any other that I have seen, most of the moving parts are what we use in thousands of other components .I feel we have addressed some items that had not previously been considered limitations or requirements in the past . I would love to say we are just like an OEM and have been designing and driving this for the last 4 years, that is an advantage DSE has right now for sure. I know there are 4 or 5 guys building cars right now to run this year so it shouldn't be long now.

[Vegas69]

Sounds really positive especially with you and Sutton involved.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

In the end - a crap driver with great products in a well sorted car... will finish back of the pack. A great driver with a half assed POS will probably be up near the front. I've run with Miata's I can barely keep up with... I've run right past ZR1's (shaking my head).

Yep!

[alongfortheride]