Anyone have any idea whats going on with Anvil Carbon

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by CamaroAJ

I emailed Anvil Thursday and never heard back. Today I called and Manal answered the phone and told me the Camaro fenders are supposed to be done today and she would email the manufacturer to see when they would be shipped.

Tl;dr

Still in business. Still have delays out of their control.

Delays are "never out of their control"... a business should have INVENTORY... and they should have items IN STOCK when they say they're in stock.

[CamaroAJ]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Delays are "never out of their control"... a business should have INVENTORY... and they should have items IN STOCK when they say they're in stock.

Nothing I ordered was in stock. I do think it's a bit ridiculous to have these kind of delays on parts. I ordered all my stuff back in June or July.

[DBasher]

Is Anvil the only player in the game? As an outsider looking in, it seems like a great business if ran well.

I wonder if these guys could be persuaded to jump into the market? They obviously have the skill, the products are made locally (USA) and they're already in the high end market....I'm pretty sure they've got the connections.

http://enlaes.com

Maybe Anvil should be looking into options for making a quality controlled part locally, it seems the majority of the problems come from doing business oversees......What the hell do I know?

Just my .02

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by DBasher

Is Anvil the only player in the game? As an outsider looking in, it seems like a great business if ran well.

I wonder if these guys could be persuaded to jump into the market? They obviously have the skill, the products are made locally (USA) and they're already in the high end market....I'm pretty sure they've got the connections.

http://enlaes.com

Maybe Anvil should be looking into options for making a quality controlled part locally, it seems the majority of the problems come from doing business oversees......What the hell do I know?

Just my .02

Alex (owner of Enlaes) and I have talked about "the market".... Here's a MAJOR difference between guys that hot rod BMW's and Mercedes and Audi's and guys building American iron..... They don't expect to buy cheap parts. They're willing to step up and pay 2 or 3 grand for a nicely built part... The American car market wants to "shop" and haggle - and try to find something cheaper. That's not a market he's willing to invest in. It costs 1,000's of dollars to build ONE mold... A manufacturer has to sell a bunch of parts just to recoup the costs of the mold, let alone make a profit. The Chinese guys that have approached him are willing to "eat" the cost of the molds - but then that means THEY own the mold - and they're going to get that cost back by cutting corners or charging more per part. Either way - you end up paying for it (the proverbial "there's no free lunch").

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Alex (owner of Enlaes) and I have talked about "the market".... Here's a MAJOR difference between guys that hot rod BMW's and Mercedes and Audi's and guys building American iron..... They don't expect to buy cheap parts. They're willing to step up and pay 2 or 3 grand for a nicely built part... The American car market wants to "shop" and haggle - and try to find something cheaper. That's not a market he's willing to invest in.
I get it and agree, but looking over Anvil's site, they aren't giving those parts away. It seems they (Anvil)are the high end of American muscle parts. I would think there are just as many high end builds in the muscle car scene as the high end import scene. Again, what do I know, I'm definatly not in that market.

It costs 1,000's of dollars to build ONE mold... A manufacturer has to sell a bunch of parts just to recoup the costs of the mold, let alone make a profit. The Chinese guys that have approached him are willing to "eat" the cost of the molds - but then that means THEY own the mold - and they're going to get that cost back by cutting corners or charging more per part. Either way - you end up paying for it (the proverbial "there's no free lunch").

I've said it before and I know we've talked about it, I'm actually proud of him and his partner for NOT taking the parts oversees. I'm a big fan of buying local and supporting American made products. His business supports families and that's a good thing.

Not trying to change anyone's business plan it just seems Anvil could have a good thing going if they just got it....better. Like the investing thread, it's good to know, and learn, the business side of things. Even if it does derail a thread

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by DBasher

I've said it before and I know we've talked about it, I'm actually proud of him and his partner for NOT taking the parts oversees. I'm a big fan of buying local and supporting American made products. His business supports families and that's a good thing.

Not trying to change anyone's business plan it just seems Anvil could have a good thing going if they just got it....better. Like the investing thread, it's good to know, and learn, the business side of things. Even if it does derail a thread

Thanks Dan -- Me too!


His parents bought his "partner" out.... So it's just Alex now. It's better. Partners usually suck. Silent partners are never silent. One side always feels they're doing all the work.... When you're a sole proprietor there's nobody to blame for anything. Poo or get off the pot!

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

His parents bought his "partner" out....

So you're saying there's a chance!

Good for him! It'll be interesting to see the growth without the "baggage" in the way. Now, if he'd just sell cheap c/f muscle car parts.....