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Old 06-17-2017, 04:16 PM
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This is very helpful GW. Could you elaborate on what system you decided to go with?


They're Vintage Air -- but the one in the '33 didn't ever blow very cold -- and the outlets were stupidly small -- and the air from that unit was always full of moisture. Brizio had that unit in and out of the car at least 3 times.... it just sucked.


The unit in the '40 is also Vintage Air -- And CHRA said that some units seem to work great and some just don't. BUT -- they had a killer hide-away outlet that flowed a lot of air -- so we'll try that.... and they'll hide the control unit and an angle under the dash. As we discussed - in those units - you really only ever run then fan speed knob. So once you know where that is - you're good to go.

I think the condenser in the '33 was just too small to gte the hear out of the leaking convertible top. A black top - a dark blue car.... takes some cooling power. Add some humidity -- and you're out of luck. The top on the '33 never did seal well. The VA unit in my '56 Nomad would freeze you out... and that was a lot of volume to cool. In the '33 it always felt like the unit was working really hard but not getting the result. I always wondered if there wasn't a hose kinked up under the dash? Or the unit was just flat out defective.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:22 AM
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.... and they'll hide the control unit and an angle under the dash. As we discussed - in those units - you really only ever run then fan speed knob. So once you know where that is - you're good to go.
Hey Greg, when I was doing my '37 Plymouth truck, I used this Desoto control head that I modified to work with the modern controls. Looks cool, is designed to bolt under the dash, and keeps the period look.

Here's a pic of the mock up one I picked up to see if it would work:


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Great to hear. Thankful your are getting good progress. We use vintage air in everything with great success. We have managed to get a Gen IV in about everything and always end up with 34 degree vent temp. The things a lot of people not attack is, keeping heat out. Making sure that the only way the air gets through the condenser is to block all other outlets and lastly proper fan shroud. Being in Florida and building daily drivers is our forte. Proper firewall insulation, door gaskets and window fitment and gaskets, all while maintaining a look of yesteryear is a big job but also pays off in big dividends. Also we use a new window tint that is clear, but removes a ton of heat in the vehicle.

Greg, I hope this progress continues and I am sure they know that they are under the spot light, which doesn't hurt either. I have been impressed with their facility from day one, not sure why Levi left there, but that happens.

Have a great Fathers Day.
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Great to hear. Thankful your are getting good progress. We use vintage air in everything with great success. We have managed to get a Gen IV in about everything and always end up with 34 degree vent temp. The things a lot of people not attack is, keeping heat out. Making sure that the only way the air gets through the condenser is to block all other outlets and lastly proper fan shroud. Being in Florida and building daily drivers is our forte. Proper firewall insulation, door gaskets and window fitment and gaskets, all while maintaining a look of yesteryear is a big job but also pays off in big dividends. Also we use a new window tint that is clear, but removes a ton of heat in the vehicle.

Greg, I hope this progress continues and I am sure they know that they are under the spot light, which doesn't hurt either. I have been impressed with their facility from day one, not sure why Levi left there, but that happens.

Have a great Fathers Day.




You're spot on! Controlling the heat getting in is 90% of the battle. In a drop top - it gets even harder! The top on the '33 looked perfect -- but you could put your hand around certain areas and you could feel the heat pouring in. They (Brizio) even brought the factory boys in and had 'em adjust it. Then Sid Shavers designed and had built - a better latch system and that really helped. Sometimes it's also a "sucking" rather than pressure.... It was very hard to get the seal just right across the back (bottom of top) of the car..... if the material tightened up (to make the top look perfect) -- it would pull that seal "up" just enough that it would create a low pressure area and draw the air out.

All of this will be MUCH easier to deal with in the '40 --- everything is new - all the sheet metal is new - and it will be insulated like crazy. Then it will just be door seals.
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:33 AM
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Funny how small business works.....


I needed a seat for the truck - a buddy building one said he used a Glide Engineering seat - which I liked the looks of his.... so off to the 'net to find it. A quick search brought up a website - http://www.waltonfabrication.com/ - but NOT Glide Engineering.... No matter - I called the firm to make an inquiry. Guy (Todd) on the phone is super helpful - doesn't know about all the '40 seats offered - but says -- "I know they (Glide) are setting up at a show today and I'm going (The LA Roadster Show) tomorrow (Saturday) and will go talk to them - and will call you back Monday".

Usually this is a "never happens".....


Monday morning Todd calls --- has all the information I need to make a decision - offers a discount.... has good insight about the product (he just didn't know details on the 40 seat but knows seats in general). BAM! Ordered the frame - the seat riser - the slide.... $1500 sale.

Here's the way I work --- I didn't even shop any other sites -- I waited for him to do what he said he'd do (giving him the full length of rope). He gets the business. As simple as that.

Now --- I did go to Glides website (the right one!) and what pops up on their home page???? Our Brizio built '33 Ford. LOL === What's the odds of that??

I mentioned this in another post... but thought I'd mention it again here in case you missed it. LOL
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:36 AM
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Not to derail on you GW, but I had a similar experience shopping for a one-off crazy driveshaft. One place never answered, another place took info but never called back, the third place (should have been the first) said they wern't sure but would I please call back and talk to the owner. I took a gamble and rang him the next day... Denny at Denny's Driveshaft. Took an immediate and genuine interest in what I was doing, walked me through every detail, helped me get exactly what I needed. He seriously discounted what turned out to be a specialized part he hadn't sold to anyone before and I was his "test pilot"... the best part? He sent exactly what he said he would, when he said he would.
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about the seat sale...

I LOVE that kind of service!
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:57 AM
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That's bad ass Craig!!! I did that once to a 56 Chevy --- I had found a brand new controller that was also an A/C car.... it was a big job to convert - and then a few years later they came out with all the electronic stuff and micro switches.... Was way cool to use the factory A/C and Heat control.
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