I give up with brake bleeding

[Hydratech®]

All of this hammering of CPP in this thread has all of a sudden led to me receiving flack about why we still carry this MC:

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/mastercylinders.html



This is a "legacy" item that we carried back when all was still "well" with our CPP dealings. We do actually have some of these on our shelves despite "everything". Why? It is actually because of customer demand for the item (just like the various Wilwood MC's we also have sitting on our shelves). I will note that this particular MC hasn't led to any trouble (surprisingly) with our customers over the years.

Now here is the beautiful one with the built in adjustable proportioning valve that I'd *really* prefer to put in place of the current CPP MC listing:

http://ssbrakes.com/i-10092042-bille...p-a0474-5.html



BUT when we mention $540 bucks for just the MC, the people on the other end of the phone go quiet for a moment trying to absorb paying this amount of money instead of the $199.95 for CPP MC....

All said and done, we can outsource this really really nice vastly superior SSBC MC for our customers on demand, though most opt out and choose the CPP version instead (despite my hammering of CPP). That is why it is still listed...

[vstol]

I exchanged my CPP 15/16 for a 1 1/8th.

[Hydratech®]

Hi Kevin - normally our lead times on the base models are in the 3-4 week range. We had a previous order for another customer that the build department accidentally "double built" a few weeks ago. I ran across it today by chance happenstance just sitting there bagged and tagged on a secondary bench and said OMG! This is the model that Kevin needs! Soooooo....

From: HYDRATECH BRAKING SYSTEMS
Tracking Number: 1Z6878F50397741825
Ship To: Kevin XXXXXXXXX
UPS Service: UPS GROUND
Number of Packages: 1
Scheduled Delivery: Monday - 10/30/2017

Thinking of Tom Petty's recent passing, I sang to myself "even the losers get lucky sometimes" (certainly not speaking of you just to be clear)

Remember, call my guy Jim Petty with any questions you may have at any point, as you have our full support!

[Hydratech®]

Now remember, you ordered the Hydratech model #3507 with the late / short MC pushrod design:



Soooo, be sure to insert the spacer bullet / plug / slug into the deep hole on your master cylinder to convert it for use with the late model GM short pushrod design on your brake unit, otherwise you will have no brakes (!)

Most all aftermarket MC designs are of this "convertible" design - the MC is provided with the GM early spec deep pushrod hole, though the MC is also typically supplied with the "conversion bullet / slug / plug" that converts it for use with the GM late / short MC pushrod interface. Note that we do not supply this item - it is supplied with the aftermarket brake master cylinder. You are using a 1 1/8" CPP MC, right? These are typically the "convertible" spacer bullet type design. I suggest you bench bleed the MC first with the deep hole, which helps to keep your screwdriver from accidentally popping out of place and gouging the MC piston bore. Once the MC is fully bench bled, then you put a dab of grease on the front of the bullet and push it into the deep MC pushrod hole (to help make sure it doesn't accidentally fall out at any point while your handling it during installation onto the face of the brake assist unit). SSBC has an instruction sheet that discusses and shows the installation of the spacer bullet in their MC's for general reference:

https://static.summitracing.com/glob...-1-2-3-4-5.pdf

So now we'll all sit back and watch how this system installation goes for you - definitely keep us posted. If all goes according to the plan, you will have a big fat smile on your face here shortly!

[vstol]

Originally Posted by Hydratech

Now remember, you ordered the Hydratech model #3507 with the late / short MC pushrod design:



Soooo, be sure to insert the spacer bullet / plug / slug into the deep hole on your master cylinder to convert it for use with the late model GM short pushrod design on your brake unit, otherwise you will have no brakes (!)

Most all aftermarket MC designs are of this "convertible" design - the MC is provided with the GM early spec deep pushrod hole, though the MC is also typically supplied with the "conversion bullet / slug / plug" that converts it for use with the GM late / short MC pushrod interface. Note that we do not supply this item - it is supplied with the aftermarket brake master cylinder. You are using a 1 1/8" CPP MC, right? These are typically the "convertible" spacer bullet type design. I suggest you bench bleed the MC first with the deep hole, which helps to keep your screwdriver from accidentally popping out of place and gouging the MC piston bore. Once the MC is fully bench bled, then you put a dab of grease on the front of the bullet and push it into the deep MC pushrod hole (to help make sure it doesn't accidentally fall out at any point while your handling it during installation onto the face of the brake assist unit). SSBC has an instruction sheet that discusses and shows the installation of the spacer bullet in their MC's for general reference:

https://static.summitracing.com/glob...-1-2-3-4-5.pdf

So now we'll all sit back and watch how this system installation goes for you - definitely keep us posted. If all goes according to the plan, you will have a big fat smile on your face here shortly!

Thanks Paul I appreciate it. I am using the CPP 1 1/8th short stroke MC. Just waiting for it to arrive as well. Thanks Kevin

[vstol]

My Hyrdatech unit arrived today and looks great. Hope to have time this weekend and get it done.

[Hydratech®]

Hi Kevin - I'm glad to hear that you are pleased with what you have pulled out of the "magic black box" - heck, that's just our base model

Keep us posted - fire off any comments you may have good or bad, as all feedback is important (whether I like it or not), as it helps with the continuous evolution of our systems. If it takes you more than 15 minutes to bolt it to the firewall, then it's time for you to retire your wrenches (!)