WELD/SUTTON DIRT MISSILE build

[fleetus macmullitz]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Just a crazy thought. Maybe this thread could be about a car build.

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[DBasher]

Ron, is this being built as a single seat with the drivers area enclosed with sheet metal and the exhaust and what nots hidden on the passenger side?

Also...as you start a project like this, have you got a set of prints that Randy works off of (I’m guessing you do)that are detailed down to the last fastener?

Looking forward to learning how this all goes together and what aero will be used.

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by DBasher

Ron, is this being built as a single seat with the drivers area enclosed with sheet metal and the exhaust and what nots hidden on the passenger side?

Also...as you start a project like this, have you got a set of prints that Randy works off of (I’m guessing you do)that are detailed down to the last fastener?

Looking forward to learning how this all goes together and what aero will be used.

Hey Dan !

Single seat? Yes
drivers area enclosed with sheet metal and the exhaust and what nots hidden on the passenger side? No
There will be "room" for a passenger seat, but there won't be one. That's where Greg's cool suit/cool air box goes.

Yes we have a set of blueprints that outline every detail of the car, that goes along with a written build plan "checklist". I won't post the "detailed" blueprints, but I will post general prints here in a while.

Yes, I actually spec every fastener, material & thickness, from the cage & frame to different sheetmetal thicknesses used in different areas.

[Ron Sutton]

For Greg Weld's 70 Fastback Mustang Track-Warrior ... we had a custom body built that is 6" wider! It's 3" wider on each side, right where the greenhouse (roof & pillars) meet the body.

This was done by hand with fiberglass veterans with experience doing custom bodies.

Here is a progression of the body being built.

[57hemicuda]

This thing is so cool, when you have a car guy who knows what he wants, and will spare no expense, and a builder that knows all the most exotic parts in the industry. Its a formula for a epic race car, with of course a muscle car skin. It doesn't hurt that I'm super partial to Mustang wide Bodies.

That trans........YUM

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

This thing is so cool, when you have a car guy who knows what he wants, and will spare no expense, and a builder that knows all the most exotic parts in the industry. Its a formula for a epic race car, with of course a muscle car skin. It doesn't hurt that I'm super partial to Mustang wide Bodies.

That trans........YUM

Since we all did PRI show --- I think I'm way more excited for this to be done than I am the little '40 pickup.... And for sure to see your AMX on track with this thing! Going to be so much fun!

And yes..... I think Sutton knows how to build a race car. I love his description --- low and mean! LOL


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[57hemicuda]

That's how we all describe you buddy, low and mean. Crack myself up.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by DBasher

Ron, is this being built as a single seat with the drivers area enclosed with sheet metal and the exhaust and what nots hidden on the passenger side?

Also...as you start a project like this, have you got a set of prints that Randy works off of (I’m guessing you do)that are detailed down to the last fastener?

Looking forward to learning how this all goes together and what aero will be used.

Ron

What about the Aero tell us what you have planned.

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Ron

What about the Aero tell us what you have planned.

Starting in the front:
A. Sealed front nose with airflow ducted through radiator/heat exchanger & brake ducts

B. 4" Front splitter x 75" wide (supported from bumper panel)

C. Splitter to wheel opening bump flare, blending from splitter into 1/3 wickers on wheel openings.

D. Deep inner fender lip on back side of all fenders
* To reduce airflow into wheel wells

E. May, or may not, add side air extractor in fenders
* I need to package everything first

F. Smooth Hood / Max Surface area
* Inner bracing to maximize downforce
* Rounded nose (Ford style in hood removed)

G. Low angle, smooth top cowl hood scoop
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* Hood will be smooth with 4" cowl scoop

H. Flush mount Lexan windshield

I. Smooth body (No door handles, emblems, etc

J. Ground Effects
* Rockers do NOT roll under
* Rockers are "boxed" to be flat on the sides
* This reduces airflow "roll under"
* 1.5" Wide Side Splitters full length of rockers
* Practically eliminates airflow under the rockers
* Creates small amount of downforce

K. Flush mount Lexan side windows with radiused B-Pillars to reduce airflow into cockpit
* NACA Duct in one side window for driver cooling
* Provides air for the FAST Cool Suit & Cool Air Helmet Blower

L. Full, smooth, belly pan from splitter to rear of car
* All removable with flat head Dzus fasteners
* 2 NACA ducts with hose to cool rear brakes
* Can run without certain panels for better cooling & ease of use
* Then run full panels when racing or running for optimum lap time

M. Functional, gentle roll diffuser with 4.5" strakes

N. Flush mount Lexan rear window

O. Rear "Kick Up" on Mustang tail light panel removed & straightened for cleaner airflow.
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* No rear spoiler
* Top of rear deck is level / kick up removed

P. Dual Element Rear Wing
* Aggressive wing design = High Down Force / Medium Drag
* 13" Primary Wing
* 5.5" Secondary Wing
* 76" Wide
* 22 Angle settings with bolt hole change
* Changeable Wickers for tuning
* Rear Mount to Chassis
* Support Mount to Body

I may put some vortex generators on the trailing edge of the roof just to mess with people. Just kiddin'. The rear profile of this car is bitchin' & doesn't need VGs.

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by Ron Sutton

Starting in the front:
A. Sealed front nose with airflow ducted through radiator/heat exchanger & brake ducts----Typical radiator opening or all clean air from down low?

B. 4" Front splitter x 75" wide (supported from bumper panel)

C. Splitter to wheel opening bump flare, blending from splitter into 1/3 wickers on wheel openings.

D. Deep inner fender lip on back side of all fenders
* To reduce airflow into wheel wells

E. May, or may not, add side air extractor in fenders
* I need to package everything first----I'd love to see this happen

F. Smooth Hood / Max Surface area----Rob, I told you so
* Inner bracing to maximize downforce
* Rounded nose (Ford style in hood removed)

G. Low angle, smooth top cowl hood scoop
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* Hood will be smooth with 4" cowl scoop

H. Flush mount Lexan windshield

I. Smooth body (No door handles, emblems, etc----How's a guy supposed to get in?

J. Ground Effects
* Rockers do NOT roll under
* Rockers are "boxed" to be flat on the sides
* This reduces airflow "roll under"
* 1.5" Wide Side Splitters full length of rockers----Any reason some splitters are curved and wider at the front and rear?
* Practically eliminates airflow under the rockers
* Creates small amount of downforce

K. Flush mount Lexan side windows with radiused B-Pillars to reduce airflow into cockpit
* NACA Duct in one side window for driver cooling
* Provides air for the FAST Cool Suit & Cool Air Helmet Blower

L. Full, smooth, belly pan from splitter to rear of car
* All removable with flat head Dzus fasteners
* 2 NACA ducts with hose to cool rear brakes----Curious to see where these get placed.
* Can run without certain panels for better cooling & ease of use
* Then run full panels when racing or running for optimum lap time

M. Functional, gentle roll diffuser with 4.5" strakes

N. Flush mount Lexan rear window

O. Rear "Kick Up" on Mustang tail light panel removed & straightened for cleaner airflow.
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* No rear spoiler
* Top of rear deck is level / kick up removed

P. Dual Element Rear Wing
* Aggressive wing design = High Down Force / Medium Drag
* 13" Primary Wing
* 5.5" Secondary Wing
* 76" Wide
* 22 Angle settings with bolt hole change
* Changeable Wickers for tuning
* Rear Mount to Chassis
* Support Mount to Body

I may put some vortex generators on the trailing edge of the roof just to mess with people. Just kiddin'. The rear profile of this car is bitchin' & doesn't need VGs.

Looking forward to your aero thread coming to life.