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Old 06-18-2007, 12:11 PM
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i will answer in 2 posts as i will look for a picture of a Fontana Dish or photo one myself right now.

"Dish" refers to a concaved style spoke that tapers in to the center of the design. The edge that touches the rim outer is 3 times as thick as a standard forging, resulting in less "wheel lip".

Dished Forgings are available for 15",17", and 18" Traditional rim outers, and 17" Fat-lip rim outers. Backspacing is limited because of how much space the forging takes up on the drop center area.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:36 AM
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Thanks that's exactly what I needed to know and meant by dished center , except the fact that 17' is as far as you'll go on a dished/concaved center with a fat lip rim, no chance of making them in 18s or 19. Is the limiting factor that with the larger diameter sizes that the taper of the spokes continues too much where it meets the rim exaggerating the backspace limitations ? Hope that ,makes sense .

A Fontana dish on a 17 Fat lip would be nice and a standard rim 18 if possible.

Just to clarify something are Fat lip wheel centers a full inch larger in diameter than a standard wheel center of the same size outer diameter ?
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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the problem is that we only have forgings for "dished" wheels in 3 sizes. We would need to do 2 things for larger diameter, 1) use plate aluminum (expensive) or 2) create new dies to create new forgings (expensive).

We are currently looking into adding more dished sizes in the future. No time frame at this time for when we would implement

The taper in the spoke in larger diameters is proportional due to the centers (design) being thicker in larger diameters.

Fat-lip rim outers use centers that are 1" larger than Traditional outers. a 17" Fat-lip uses the same center that would be used in an 18" Traditional outer.
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Thanks again, you couldn't explain it any better, straight from the horses mouth, now I can sit tight and wait for some pictures.

Last question for now is doing an M5 center in a dished format possible with an additional nominal fee that won't break the bank?
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:51 AM
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apparently i don't know how to image host... i'll figure it out. i have the picture... PM me your email and i'll send over a high res. image
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