Anybody slowing down from 150+ mph very quickly??

[68protouring454]

ok, so lets find out what pads are best for track use and street combo, with the c5 rotors, both 12.8 and 13.4

[fatlife]

Yes its another corvette post, but the info is all the same, this is some good reading and basially is saying the same thing we have been saying here;
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=673766

Great read for a first time track goer even if it is buy a bunch of "vette" guys

[fatlife]

Originally Posted by 68protouring454

ok, so lets find out what pads are best for track use and street combo, with the c5 rotors, both 12.8 and 13.4

Carbotech
Wilwood
Hawk
porterfield
pic your favorite brand

and when it comes to brake pads for a 4000ilb car for the track, there is no street/track pad. You need a dedicated race pad for the track, unless you are passing vettes in a primer camaro

BUT if you were just going out once in a blue moon to just enjoy yourself and weren't really really pushing it, something like a Hawk HPS pad would work good. You just have to really define what you mean by track, and just how good you want the brakes to work. You can always make a compromise and use a street pad like the Hawk HPS but if you want consistenly good brakes you need to step up to a race pad, which is going to dust A LOT and also take awhilie to warm up. But once you get out on the track a few times, and start picking up speed, you will realize that the whole street/track thing is silly, you need race stuff if you want to go fast and reliably. Now if you just want to go once or twice just to say you did it and have fun, you can make a lot of compromises.

[nitrorocket]

I run performance friction race pads now. They actually work good on the street, they do work a little better when warmed up, but I end up overheatin the rotors and calipers and they work like crap if I pound on them too long. For a dual purpose car, I have found best results just using the race stuff, it works best on the track, and better then average on the street.

[fatlife]

yes, there is always an execption to the rule, and if your willing to live with compromises you can make a lot of stuff work. I've personally never ran a race pad on the street, only heard that they don't work very well initially.

[nitrorocket]

They don't wok as good as they can initially, but I would say they would still work better then the average car if you have the larger rotor and good caliper.(which I dont have yet)

Also, Autozone has the front C5 rotors for $55 each and PFC Z rated pads for $105. Those are the pads I run now, any good compared to other race pads??

I have to call the dealer tomorrow and see what my cost is on rotors.

[fatlife]

i would go with differnet pads, those might be good, but I've never heard of anyone using them before, some wilwood H pads would be damn good. also apparantly Napa has the rotors for $25, have autozone match the price
EDIT: you know, if you have already used these pads and like them go for it. You will have to replace them periodically anyway, so you will have a lot more chances to try out different brands. Do some research and then choose from there. I personally would be going with ferrodo (sp?) or Carbotech

[nitrorocket]

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=rotors+used


Interesting thread I found on the new 14" rotors, great pic of the rotors hot also!

[fatlife]

glad you found some info, looks like a lot of people are blaming it on the 2 sided rotor deal. I believe it. I saw rotors bright red like that one time at Infineon raceway. I went on a ride along in a new Dodge Intrepid....yes an intrepid. I thought it was going to be a joke, but me and 3 other people piled into the car. The driver was a professional instructor and man was I suprised. He went into the turns plowing that pig so hard he was in a controlled understeer the entire turn. I think we all looked a little white in the face when we got out! I looked at the rotors on the car and they were glowing bright red just like the pic in that link. They will also tell you at the track to not leave your ebrake on when you park the car after some laps, as the pad will melt onto the rotor!

[Blown353]

Originally Posted by nitrorocket

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=rotors+used

Interesting thread I found on the new 14" rotors, great pic of the rotors hot also!

Those rotor pics looke like nothing out of the ordinary for an x-drilled rotor that has seen a couple track sessions.

Solid rotors heat check & crack too, but they typically propagate more slowly.

As was stated in that CF thread, there is no one "magic" pad that works great on the street and track. We're talking two wildly different temperature ranges, hence why we have street compounds and race compounds. Using either for the wrong application has drawbacks. Street pads will typically cook and fade away at the track as they were meant to work best with moderate temps encountered in daily driving, and race pads on the street never get up to the intended temp level which can have many effects including reduced coefficent of friction and rapidly accelerated rotor wear.

Lots of good pads to choose from... Carbotech, Hawk, Porterfield, Ferrodo, etc. All offer both street and track compounds.