Gen 2 Camaro Control Arm choice - Page 2 - Lateral-g Forums

JKnight · #11 10-18-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gerno

Unfortunately my bank is really really going to hate me because it seems the brakes needed for the spindles will not fit my current wheels.

In addition to the brakes necessitating the need for larger wheels, there are some issues with the tie rod interfering with the inside of the wheel, which the larger wheel diameter helps to alleviate. What are the specs on the wheels you have now? That will help Blake/Tobin/others to be able to make recommendations.

gerno · #12 10-18-2013, 12:25 PM

I know my wheels won't fit the brakes I want to use. You make good points about the other possible issues. This is the reason I'm hoping Blake can provide some known good sizings based on other projects they have built. Looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and get new wheels/tires while I'm blowing the rest of my money

JKnight · #13 10-18-2013, 01:06 PM

You won't necessarily have to, I just want you to know about the things you'll have to measure/analyze.

Tobin at Kore3 does a hybrid C5 brake setup with slightly smaller diameter rotors that will fit in 17" wheels I believe. But, if you're going to do a 285 front tire, you're going to end up needing wheels wide enough to hold them. With 9"+ wide wheels, I believe they'll interfere with the tie-rod unless you're using wheels with a lot of negative offset.

You can refer to the OneLap Camaro thread to see how David P. had to modify the steering arms extensively to work around this issue. Actually, he used the speedtech arms as well, so if you haven't read through that thread, you really should.

gerno · #14 10-18-2013, 02:43 PM

I'll check out the info from David. I'm currently running the factory spindle with the C5 brakes and don't have an issue with clearance. The 6 piston Wilwood calipers stick out ~.6" further than the C5's.

JKnight · #15 10-18-2013, 04:58 PM

Where does Wilwood factor into this? Your C5 brakes will bolt directly to the AFX spindle, that's one of its best selling points. So if your wheels clear your brakes now, they should clear after the spindle change to AFX.

gerno · #16 10-18-2013, 05:25 PM

The Wilwoods have to do with matching the rear 4 piston Dynapro 12.19" rear brakes I just put on the car. I was trying to keep the brakes balanced front and rear. You make a good point about the brakes on the AFX so I called Wilwood to confirm the front/rear caliper balance with the C5's. While it won't be ideal it seems like I can get away with my current front brakes while using the proportioning valve to dial it out. As of now I think I'm going to order up the high clearance/AFX setup from Speedtech and leave the current brakes/wheels. Who knows how I'll feel by Monday when I can order it up.....I feel like I'm losing my mind trying to figure all this out.

Blake Foster · #17 10-21-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gerno

The Wilwoods have to do with matching the rear 4 piston Dynapro 12.19" rear brakes I just put on the car. I was trying to keep the brakes balanced front and rear. You make a good point about the brakes on the AFX so I called Wilwood to confirm the front/rear caliper balance with the C5's. While it won't be ideal it seems like I can get away with my current front brakes while using the proportioning valve to dial it out. As of now I think I'm going to order up the high clearance/AFX setup from Speedtech and leave the current brakes/wheels. Who knows how I'll feel by Monday when I can order it up.....I feel like I'm losing my mind trying to figure all this out.

don't over think it!!
just pick up the phone........... lol

gerno · #18 10-21-2013, 10:14 AM

I have to over think it, my bank account is already screaming at me. Luckily (or maybe not) I don't have a wife or kids and my dog is very forgiving of my car addiction. I image by EOW I'll be ordering everything including front suspension, brakes and new wheels/tires.....

I spoke with Jay on Friday about some more of the details related to the front suspension. It was late in the day and he wanted to go home but he still took time to listen to me and help.

Blake Foster · #19 10-22-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gerno

I have to over think it, my bank account is already screaming at me. Luckily (or maybe not) I don't have a wife or kids and my dog is very forgiving of my car addiction. I image by EOW I'll be ordering everything including front suspension, brakes and new wheels/tires.....

I spoke with Jay on Friday about some more of the details related to the front suspension. It was late in the day and he wanted to go home but he still took time to listen to me and help.

I was just giving you a hard time.

gerno · #20 10-22-2013, 08:37 AM

I know you were, its all good.

Looks like I'm most likely going to bite the bullet and just buy everything including arms, spindle, brakes and wheels. This assumes there are no huge surprises when I get the cost for the front setup. I'm waiting for Jay to send over the cost with the necessary idler and pitman arms for the front with the high clearance/AFX setup.

Now comes step 2 of pain....deciding on a new set up wheels to fit the new front brakes.... Thinking either CCW LM20's or KWC 015's with either a satin grey or satin bronze/gold finish on the face and polished hoops. I guess there are worse issues to have in life.

Blake - You should make it easier on me and offer up a set of Forgelines for the CCW/KWC cost