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Originally Posted by californiacuda
Not to argue at all about the competency of the high tech machine and its ability to measure small changes. But I had a teacher many years ago that would say "There's many a slip between the cup and the lip".
If your selling a very competent suspension system at a not cheap price, it doesn't make sense to me to not demonstrate over and over again, its superior performance. And I haven't seen a demo against a Vette, or a Viper, or a some other modern performance car that handles well.
Another idea would be to run your car against an E body with an Alterkation front and an Air ride 4link rear. Seems like the Air Ride guys like to do demos. Would be fun to see.
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If you noticed in my last response to your question, I said we would be doing more on track comparisons, especially with modern cars. In addition to the cars you mentioned we're thinking more like Ferrari, Porsche and BMW.
LOL - you're making it harder and harder for me not to tell you what I really think about the products you're mentioning, but that's just not something I do. If you get the opportunity to do it in person somewhere, just look at our stuff and the ones you mention and you will easily see significant differences.
I won't pick apart other people's products. However, engineering and testing aside, if you have a reasonable handle on suspension technology and product design (as in how it's been put together), you will see there are huge differences. Alot of those differences come down to cost and what the intended application is. I'd love to laundry list all those differences for you, but that's just not how I've ever done business.
As far as shoot out type stuff, we're all over it, but it needs to be at a real road race track (not an auto-X) and needs to be covered by a major magazine. I've been pushing several mags for some time to do a real shoot out w/ some simple rules - I've even offered to pay for the track.
One little anecdote for you on the technology. When we were running our Level II setup on the 4-post rig, the engineer that would review the runs would go through all kinds of data after each run and identified something going on at the rear of the car, but only at a specific frequency (the runs are done at varying speeds from big slow movements to very fast small ones). So they set the rig to run continually at that specific frequency and we crawled under the car to try and identify it. We did find it and ended up making a change to one of the mounts that's incorporated in the production units and the cars we build. Something like that you would probably never be able to find otherwise. I could easily write a book on all that we did, why it was done and what we found.
We've got alot going on and I don't want to let the cat out of the bag right now on a number of things that relate to what you're asking about. It's just going to take a little time.