Gnrs '15

[Ketzer]

Just seeing pictures, I like the car Pinkees did and then the Iron Hills Hotrods '36 a close second...

[Al Moreno]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

The Alloway Roadster (flamed of course!) won AMBR this



year.http://www.hotrod.com/news/2015-amer...ders/#photo-02

I'm stupefied. No offense to Alloway but that was a freaking joke compare to the other contenders!

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Al Moreno

I'm stupefied. No offense to Alloway but that was a freaking joke compare to the other contenders!

One of the biggest reasons we chose not to enter AMBR judging with the '33 was A) that was never the intent B) Brizio won the year before meaning there's no way he's winning two years in a row


I agree with you Al - there were several other entries that weren't nearly so 80's and ordinary (not that an Alloway is ordinary in build quality). But WTF - Technically last years winner isn't even a Roadster.... so apparently there is no figuring this out.

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Al Moreno

I'm stupefied. No offense to Alloway but that was a freaking joke compare to the other contenders!

Could be some politics involved since he was inducted into the hall of fame at the show.

[ironworks]

Everyone I talked with thought the same as me that not one car stood out above the others. So it may have just come down to style and choice that they are trying to promote now days. That Alloway car is cool and yes it's typical Alloway, but he does build cool stuff if you like his style and so does Roy with the Mumford Roadster and Wes with his Phaeton.

I'm just glad to see a deserving car win and not the car with the most insane display win the prize that is Super Duper Ugly.

[NOPANTS68]

While I think Alloways car is beautiful, I feel like he's built that car a dozen times. Same wheels, same flames, same gingerbread etc. etc. I'd own it but there's nothing outstanding about it compared to some of the other contenders. That Nickel 3 duece is the a good glimpse of the future of hot ridding IMO. Rare engine, gold race style wheels, stainless roof and misc. pieces. I'm a huge Steve Moal fan and this car reminds me of some of the wonderful things that he dreams up.

I showed our '32 years ago in SF, Sac, and Portland and was ultimately so turned off by the indoor show scene I swore I'd never do it again. Watching two dozen wealthy old guys argue about who's half million dollar loss deserves a plastic trophy more was pathetic.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by NOPANTS68

While I think Alloways car is beautiful, I feel like he's built that car a dozen times. Same wheels, same flames, same gingerbread etc. etc. I'd own it but there's nothing outstanding about it compared to some of the other contenders. That Nickel 3 duece is the a good glimpse of the future of hot ridding IMO. Rare engine, gold race style wheels, stainless roof and misc. pieces. I'm a huge Steve Moal fan and this car reminds me of some of the wonderful things that he dreams up.

I showed our '32 years ago in SF, Sac, and Portland and was ultimately so turned off by the indoor show scene I swore I'd never do it again. Watching two dozen wealthy old guys argue about who's half million dollar loss deserves a plastic trophy more was pathetic.

My exact thoughts - and thus the S S D D comment about the Hetfield/Dore build. Been there - done that look and feel. Beautiful yes - craftsmanship over the top - check... but it's certainly not "new" anymore. It's like looking at a Moal car with dimple die work.... But then again - it's real hard to come up with something that hasn't been done in the hot rod world. When I looked at all the cars I was looking for what's going FORWARD... without just being "dare to be different" which to me doesn't mean it's cool or you'd want to drive it. EVERYONE that enters these has over the top quality... so to me - that's not an issue.

I would cite the Ring Brothers Chevelle as something that's going "forward"... and I'd want to drive it - and it would win any show it entered and it would have a crowd around it anywhere it went. The interior being the stand out theme there. To me - that's the kind of thing I want to see at a car show. Something you just don't see - but isn't weird...

I know how I'd judge the AMBR cars..... it's so easy a kindergartner could do it. Which car had the biggest crowd around it all weekend long. That's the clear winner as judged by the hot rodders that attend. All you'd have to do is get an elevated judges stand to see this.... because every time I walked by - there was clearly cars that NOBODY stood around to see. The Alloway was one of them. You could "see" it from 50 feet and dismiss it as another flamed hot rod.

[Al Moreno]

Originally Posted by ironworks

I'm just glad to see a deserving car win and not the car with the most insane display win the prize that is Super Duper Ugly.

I agree.

Originally Posted by ironworks

Everyone I talked with thought the same as me that not one car stood out above the others.

I'm nit so sure not one stood out.

The amount of creativity that went into this 28 was amazing! Literally everything on it was fab.



Check out the rear view mirrors mimic the headlights and the stand is built into the body reveal.









Check out the release on the quarters to clear the internal substructure. It has a similar feature on the hood to clear the air filters.











Checkout the head rest built into the cage.














Full belly pan.

[GregWeld]

See Al --- Rudy nor I thought that car should have even entered..... We both voted it the ugly duckling. LOL

[Al Moreno]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

My exact thoughts - and thus the S S D D comment about the Hetfield/Dore build. Been there - done that look and feel. Beautiful yes - craftsmanship over the top - check... but it's certainly not "new" anymore. It's like looking at a Moal car with dimple die work.... But then again - it's real hard to come up with something that hasn't been done in the hot rod world. When I looked at all the cars I was looking for what's going FORWARD... without just being "dare to be different" which to me doesn't mean it's cool or you'd want to drive it. EVERYONE that enters these has over the top quality... so to me - that's not an issue.

I would cite the Ring Brothers Chevelle as something that's going "forward"... and I'd want to drive it - and it would win any show it entered and it would have a crowd around it anywhere it went. The interior being the stand out theme there. To me - that's the kind of thing I want to see at a car show. Something you just don't see - but isn't weird...

I know how I'd judge the AMBR cars..... it's so easy a kindergartner could do it. Which car had the biggest crowd around it all weekend long. That's the clear winner as judged by the hot rodders that attend. All you'd have to do is get an elevated judges stand to see this.... because every time I walked by - there was clearly cars that NOBODY stood around to see. The Alloway was one of them. You could "see" it from 50 feet and dismiss it as another flamed hot rod.

Couldn't agree more G, we saw it from far away and the comment my son made was "garden variety" and we kept walking.