painters, question about solid colors - Lateral-g Forums

**camcojb** · #1 07-18-2007, 03:34 PM

I've painted several of my own cars, but they've always been metallics, micahs, etc. I have never shot a solid color.

With the above you have to paint it all at once, at least I do, and I hang the sheetmetal in the general angles that they will be on the car. I prefer to paint my car completely apart as it does better for me in the tight areas, jambs, fender edges, etc.

My question is that with a solid beige like in my rendering above I think I can paint the pieces separately from the car itself. In other words, shoot the shell one day and then doors/fenders, trunk, and hood the next. Obvious all from the same bucket of paint, at the same reduction, same gun, same temps, same number of coats, etc. I've talked to people who say they have shot pieces separately on different days without issue, but none of them are 100% trustworthy in my opinion. One guy likes to get one piece perfect, paint it, and then on to the next piece. Might take him a week or more to shoot everything and says there are no cast issues, etc. with the solid colors, it always matches as long as all the pieces are shot out of the same paint bucket. My question is, is there a danger doing this? It would be a huge advantage to not have to get a huge area constructed for the booth with all the sheetmetal plus the body. I have the perfect sized area for either the body alone, or separate pieces, but not both.

Jody

L8ONBRAKE · #2 07-18-2007, 05:32 PM

"Paging 68protouring454"

68protouring454 · #3 07-18-2007, 05:40 PM

make sure its the same paint, same person spraying, you could do parts 6 months apart and be fine, for that matter with how paint is mixed today as long as you have 1/2 a brain you should not even have to use all the same mix, BUT you do just to eliminate any chance there is. i would not be too concerned with the weather, just make sure there is some air flow and the weather won't be a factor, and use same application technique.

**camcojb** · #4 07-18-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454

make sure its the same paint, same person spraying, you could do parts 6 months apart and be fine, for that matter with how paint is mixed today as long as you have 1/2 a brain you should not even have to use all the same mix, BUT you do just to eliminate any chance there is. i would not be too concerned with the weather, just make sure there is some air flow and the weather won't be a factor, and use same application technique.

Perfect, thanks Jake.

Jody

68protouring454 · #5 07-18-2007, 06:53 PM

what are you going to use for materials? what does the car have on it now. urethane primer? if so i would wet sand with 600 and if no burn thru's i would go right to base coat, if you do seal it, still have it sanded out to 600 and just piss coat it, no need for any build, goodluck i am sure you know what to do

**camcojb** · #6 07-18-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454

what are you going to use for materials? what does the car have on it now. urethane primer? if so i would wet sand with 600 and if no burn thru's i would go right to base coat, if you do seal it, still have it sanded out to 600 and just piss coat it, no need for any build, goodluck i am sure you know what to do

yeah, urethane primer. Seems this basecoat (Sikkens) covers great so a couple coats max just for good coverage and then clear coat.

Thanks again Jake.

Jody

ProTouring442 · #7 07-19-2007, 05:49 AM

With modern paints you shouldn't have any trouble panel painting it. Even metallics these days are pretty safe for this. Now the 3 & 4 stage stuff...

Sikkens is a great paint to work with though. I've been using DuPont Premier lately, and have had good luck with it too. I've also used Diamont with great success... I think as long as you have a good gun, you're OK

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

**camcojb** · #8 07-23-2007, 09:19 AM

thanks Bill.

Jody

race-rodz · #9 07-25-2007, 01:49 AM

make sure everything is spotless clean. dirt, lint, all that other fun stuff stands out 100000000% more on a light solid color than on any pearl/met color.

my personal favorite is painting something with a high met color, half a$$ the cleaning of the booth prior to painting something black....roll it out side and see the panel you just painted has a nice fine met to it only visible in sunlight. this is the point where you smack yourself in the back of the head and clear tomorrows schedule....cuz you doin a redo, after you spend extra time cleaning the booth out.

one of these days when i get rich...im gonna have a nice fancy downdraft....so i can remember back to when everything was a PITFA

68protouring454 · #10 07-25-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by race-rodz

make sure everything is spotless clean. dirt, lint, all that other fun stuff stands out 100000000% more on a light solid color than on any pearl/met color.

my personal favorite is painting something with a high met color, half a$$ the cleaning of the booth prior to painting something black....roll it out side and see the panel you just painted has a nice fine met to it only visible in sunlight. this is the point where you smack yourself in the back of the head and clear tomorrows schedule....cuz you doin a redo, after you spend extra time cleaning the booth out.

one of these days when i get rich...im gonna have a nice fancy downdraft....so i can remember back to when everything was a PITFA

i love my blowtherm baking oven downdraft booth!!! good advice, jody apply 2-3 coats of base, then carefully check entire car for dust etc, wet sand with 800-1000 anything you find then dust in base, as rod says it will look worse then a dark color because not only will you see the chunk but more then likely it will stick way out being on a light color