FESLER, SEMA and making parts. Sorry for the long post

[Gardner]

Originally Posted by fesler

Because people hate us and want to start things. I try to just stay out of it but can only do so much. I dont just sit back and let people rip me up.

I'm not sure people have replied here because they hate you. I believe the majority feel the need to express an opinion because of a personal experience with you as do I. That's the great thing about this country.

First of all your novel is one of the most self serving pieces I have ever read. From a marketing perspective it fails, from a sincerity perspective it fails and from an apology perspective it is embarrassing. The only thing you have thoroughly covered is excuses.

I visited your booth on 3 occasions during the show only to receive the attitude that has been referred to in this post. My opinion after speaking with you personally and two of your people is the name of your company should immediately be changed to "Legends in Our Own Minds".

If anyone was as good as you all asserted you were and all of the competition was as bad as you took the time to mention you would be in every hall of fame in the business and build 90% of the custom cars in the country.

After seeing your two cars this year and several cars in prior years I only have a couple questions:

1. Why do you never show a completely finished car?
2. Do you not consider fit and finish important ?

I have never seen gaps and finish in a quality show car like the Nova. Is it a new thing to see inside the trunk with the lid closed? Why don't you show the car with the doors open? you could avoid highlighting the 1/2" gap in door front vs. the 1/4" in the rear or the 1/4" variance from top to bottom. Trim throughout the car is also meant to fit flush and tight. Although, please keep in mind these are minor things I look at when I am having a car built or buying parts.

The Mustang isn't far off but I didn't spend as much time on that one.

You should spend more time with your fabricators on quality than editorializing on the web. I guess there is always Wyotech.

[1970cuda]

I have known Chris for some time now. Everytime I have spoken to him or his staff, they have been polite and conciderate. I know that first impressions are everything but taking the time to give people a second chance is a good thing. Chris is very detailed individual and I know that it pains him to display a non completed car and he always has the best intentions to have them completed, but with the design and parts business and everyone that is in and out of the shop everyday, sometimes things get out of control. Chris and the majority of the builders build cars because they love cars and love to see what they can do and not for the money or to win a popularity contest. As for products, how many companies produce light bulbs or shampoo. Someone was the first to invent these things, all everyone else is doing is to make them different or better!

[jst8a5.0]

I talked to Chris at the sema show and he just seemed a little cocky and barely interested in my questions even though I was the only one in the booth at the time. I just chocked that up to the fact that I look young and am young as is my business. The problem with this is even though that's the case, I have a customer that I have already sold on some parts specifically from Fesler because I wanted to support the vendors on this site. When I asked about the certain products that were actually at the show, there was hardly motivation for an answer to my questions. Even when I gave him another chance and asked a different way I got a less motivated answer. I figured he was tired of dealing with B.S.ers and young'uns, but I left feeling like I maybe needed to buy somewhere else. Mind you I really look up to companies like Fesler, Squeege's, Ironworks, etc. because I hope to be at that level someday. It's sorta like the feeling like an older sibling made fun of you in front of their friends. I would not have said anything to anyone about this, but this thread deserves this input. By a business perspective, I'm just a little guy but everyone I met at the show was beyond nice, JF Lanier, the guys from Killer Customs and all at the party, and everyone at the Lat-g party, etc but this was the one exception.

[novanutcase]

What is interesting to me is how hot or cold a lot of the comments are. People either love or hate Chris and his company. It seems like the word "cocky" has come up more than once and that is the one thing that sticks out in my mind from this post along with my limited personal experience with him and his company.

I'll say this.....Fesler Built certainly evokes strong emotions, be they good or bad, from all concerned!

John

[70TWO NOVA]

well, like they say "there is no such thing as bad press!" lol

[Rellim51]

Originally Posted by Gardner

I'm not sure people have replied here because they hate you. I believe the majority feel the need to express an opinion because of a personal experience with you as do I. That's the great thing about this country.

First of all your novel is one of the most self serving pieces I have ever read. From a marketing perspective it fails, from a sincerity perspective it fails and from an apology perspective it is embarrassing. The only thing you have thoroughly covered is excuses.

I visited your booth on 3 occasions during the show only to receive the attitude that has been referred to in this post. My opinion after speaking with you personally and two of your people is the name of your company should immediately be changed to "Legends in Our Own Minds".

If anyone was as good as you all asserted you were and all of the competition was as bad as you took the time to mention you would be in every hall of fame in the business and build 90% of the custom cars in the country.

After seeing your two cars this year and several cars in prior years I only have a couple questions:

1. Why do you never show a completely finished car?
2. Do you not consider fit and finish important ?

I have never seen gaps and finish in a quality show car like the Nova. Is it a new thing to see inside the trunk with the lid closed? Why don't you show the car with the doors open? you could avoid highlighting the 1/2" gap in door front vs. the 1/4" in the rear or the 1/4" variance from top to bottom. Trim throughout the car is also meant to fit flush and tight. Although, please keep in mind these are minor things I look at when I am having a car built or buying parts.

The Mustang isn't far off but I didn't spend as much time on that one.

You should spend more time with your fabricators on quality than editorializing on the web. I guess there is always Wyotech.

100% TRUTH!

[fesler]

Originally Posted by Rellim51

100% TRUTH!

100% TRUTH well if you few people feel the way you do when you see a post with FESLER stay away from it. If you dont like us then dont come to us you already know the outcome and no mater what I do it cant be fixed. In your eyes it doesnt mater what I do it will never be right. I cant post right, I cant appologize right, I cant run my shop right, I dont build cars right and so on. What kind of cars do you build and how many parts have you built for them. Maybe I can come work with you

[DOOM]

Chris just keep doing what your doing !!!!!! Let some of these guys start their own buisness and see how much fun it is.. Anyone that was around your both could see how busy everyone was ! I waited NO ATTITUDES your guys were very pleasent... As for the comments on the cars .... I want to see the cars of these "BUILDERS''!!!!
Done...
Mario

[fesler]

Yes time to close the post because no mater what I say its going to just keep going. I know what we do and if people think I am stuck up there is not much that I can do about it. I love what I do and am pumped to talk about it.

[XLexusTech]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Chris just keep doing what your doing !!!!!! Let some of these guys start their own buisness and see how much fun it is.. Anyone that was around your both could see how busy everyone was ! I waited NO ATTITUDES your guys were very pleasent... As for the comments on the cars .... I want to see the cars of these "BUILDERS''!!!!
Done...
Mario

I don't think he is wise enough to recognize that damage he is doing now is worse as well a everlasting and easily Googleable. I love watching this train wreck!