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Old 01-08-2015, 06:33 AM
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Cosmos Mentis: (Universal Thinker/Mind?)

Very cool car. The main reason it, it wasn't part of the original posters question.

Did I mention, that is a cool car?

Thanks, (Please let me know on your screen name, ok?)

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That's easy enough...

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Neil:

Thnaks for responding.

If this is the depth at which you classify Car types, I think there is nothing wrong with that. I do believe if you explore things a bit deeper you would find numerous differences in all the segments you mentioned, but then maybe not?

All I know is I am not trying to cut anyones car/car project down nor belittle their efforts, I am stating that words have meanings, the thread asked for meanings.

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In my opinion, a build style usually has at least one defining characteristic:

Pro Street = wheel tubs with bigs and littles
Gasser = sky high front end
Lead Sled = lowered with chopped top
Hot Rod = no fenders and visible engine
Track Car = gutted interior with full cage
Low Rider = hydraulics
Resto Mod = restored car with period mods

For Pro Touring, it's a lowered suspension with upgraded wheels and tires.

But I call everything a Hot Rod and my 69 Z28 has stock brakes sitting behind Forgelines, so what do I know.
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:53 AM
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Greg,

Thanks for the post.
(Answers in your text.)

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At WHAT LEVEL does it need to perform? If your car runs a lap that is 10 seconds slower than mine - does it "perform"??

How about to run essentually with or better than, a Ferrari 612.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_612_Scaglietti

This car would fall within the Protouring/Grand Touring Definition.


It is a Grand Touring car.

This whole question isn't worth the bandwidth it's taken up already. Sorry. It's just stupid to try to put definitions on something that doesn't need defining.

Why is it stupid to define a type of car, the Car Industry does it all the time. (and they test the limites as well)


Let's try to define Tim's new all wheel drive '32 Ford.... WTF are we going to label that?

My personal label "BAD ASS HOT ROD!!"
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Ty,

Big 'Seinfeld' show fan (addict?) here.

Originally the screen name was 'compos mentis' aka 'sound mind', based on this scene with Larry David and his hilarious (IMHO) over the top portrayal of George Steinbrenner (see 1:15-1:50 min mark on vid if interested).

Then it went to 'cosmos mentis'...just to see who was paying attention.




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Ty,

Big 'Seinfeld' show fan (addict?) here.

Originally the screen name was 'compos mentis' aka 'sound mind', based on this scene with Larry David and his hilarious (IMHO) over the top portrayal of George Steinbrenner (see 1:15-1:50 min mark on vid if interested).

Then it went to 'cosmos mentis'...just to see who was paying attention.




Love that portrayal of him

Everybody out . I got eggplant on my mind . Costanza get me couple of those calzones right now . Pronto . Move out . Big Stein wants an eggplant calzone.

Must have one . Everybody out . Out .
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Love that portrayal of him

Everybody out . I got eggplant on my mind . Costanza get me couple of those calzones right now . Pronto . Move out . Big Stein wants an eggplant calzone.

Must have one . Everybody out . Out .
Thanks, now fixating on eggplant calzones...lol.

Perfect use of a pro-touring car on a hot nite would be to turn on the a/c while making a run through a drive-thru place that has great food.

Rolling your power window down on one of these old heaps should impress too.

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Default Not looking to re-open the PT definition debate...just some irony IMO.

Jay and Tim (at the 7 min mark) go for a short blast in Tim Allen's Bodie Stroud built '68 Camaro.

They describe how well it rides/drives/accelerates and the excellent build quality.

For Tim the ultimate compliment seemed to be when Jay said 'it's like something that would be built today.'

'Pro-touring' is never mentioned.

What world do they live in?



Jay just calls it 'modern hot rodding'.

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Jay just calls it 'modern hot rodding'.



When you peel the layers back - that's all it really is. Hot rodding. The exact same goals teens, and young men, in the 40's/50's/60's/70's/80's had. Make it faster. Make it louder. Make it handle better. Make it lighter. They cut the roof - we cut the inner wheel wells... They put a Caddy in a Ford - we put an LS in a Mopar (well really only one guy is that stupid)... They put "bigs and littles" on - we put "staggered" sizes on.


Same **** different day.
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When you peel the layers back - that's all it really is. Hot rodding. The exact same goals teens, and young men, in the 40's/50's/60's/70's/80's had. Make it faster. Make it louder. Make it handle better. Make it lighter. They cut the roof - we cut the inner wheel wells... They put a Caddy in a Ford - we put an LS in a Mopar (well really only one guy is that stupid)... They put "bigs and littles" on - we put "staggered" sizes on.


Same **** different day.
Ain't it the truth!

I'd say one difference is the money involved. Even considering inflation, I'd bet a high dollar car of the 40's & 50's wouldn't touch an average car's cost today. Of course, they didn't have many of the type of products we do today, such as big brakes, electronic wizardry, sound equipment, et. al.
I think that's why the Rat Rod deal was born. Like them or not, they are more like many of the original rodders cars. Some of these cars are pure art, just without the shiny stuff. I am quickly becoming a fan.

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