69 Camaro at Best of Show

[Vegas69]

From the photos, it appears the threads failed, no?

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

If it had been a big block, they would have sheared, not fell out. Just thought I'd point that out.

And...........the reason they make Magnum condoms.

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

If it had been a big block, they would have sheared, not fell out. Just thought I'd point that out.

Maybe. Or, maybe they would have just rattled loose from the vibrations.

It is unclear to me how exactly the bolts came out. Most are pinched and look like there might not have been enough thread engagement to make the bolts as secure as they could have been, which would have allowed them to "wiggle," and wear away where they did. When we replaced the bolts we bought F9s that were .25" longer, and we put red loctite and AN washers on them.

Rob, I read that link you posted. Sometimes I think you are one of a handful of intelligent Ford guys, and that is mostly because you have a Corvette.

I'm still dumb struck that a relatively big manufacturer like Moser would have a product like this that appears, at least to me, to have more than just a quality control issue.

[Track Junky]

Had the same thing happen to me last year but I made it home. I looked down my driveway and followed the leak down my street. Then I went to look at my car to see where it was leaking from. The rear gear kicked the only ring gear bolt that completely dropped out through my rear cover.

[intocarss]

That sucks, sorry that happen. I use ARP ring gear bolts and always TQ and loctite them in with any kind of performance deal

In all my years I have never seen all of them fall out like that

[Flash68]

Dude I am glad you are okay. That is not cool. Wow.

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Rob, I read that link you posted. Sometimes I think you are one of a handful of intelligent Ford guys, and that is mostly because you have a Corvette.

Oh man that is just too good. And likely too true.

[syborg tt]

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Marty, I was going to let the DSE folks know about it when they made their way down for Good Guys Del Mar. However they choose to deal with it is fine by me. I did purchase the part back in '08, so I don't expect anything from them, especially if Moser were to just blow them off.

In the end you got lucky it was just hardware that was damaged. However if it was greater I a certain you will feel differently. Just think if you were on the highway and you car broke down and you were rear end. There are so any different scenario's that could have played out. But in the end it was poor workmanship and incorrect hardware and that is something that DSE should be made aware of. How any others are out there with the same problem.

DSE is known for the quality and there quality control procedures and it looks like they might need to update/modify the QC procedures for their vendors. Especially when it could have caused catastrophic damage to your rear end.

Case in point many years ago I had a ring gear swap on my lifted Toyota and the tolerances were set to tight. Which caused the differential to overheat on my drive from Chicago to St Louis. Which smoke the center section, ring & pinion, all bearings and axles. In the end it cost me about $2,000 to repair the damage and a day in court ( yes I won ). So like I said you got lucky.

[randy]

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Thanks for the recommendation on Strange. I have slowly been losing faith in Moser. I was a little bugged by my experience with their 9" with Torino big bearing ends. But that was really due to my actual use versus their intended use. I had a friend with one of their full floaters, which he described as a piece of junk that fell apart. In all seriousness I never really considered calling them, because I figured it wouldn't be worth my while, I figured I'd ask in case anyone had an overwhelmingly positive experience.

Greg, I'm not sure it is a good thing or a bad thing that you've never seen anything like this. I seem to have the best luck for having the best outcome from some of the worst luck.

Skip, I'm not sure name dropping OUSCI would work when they asked what my name was and I said Matt Alcala, spelled M-a-r-k S-t-i-e-l-o-w.

Marty, I was going to let the DSE folks know about it when they made their way down for Good Guys Del Mar. However they choose to deal with it is fine by me. I did purchase the part back in '08, so I don't expect anything from them, especially if Moser were to just blow them off.

what issues did you have with the torino big bearing ends and now you are scaring me alittle about my dse moser 9"

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by randy

what issues did you have with the torino big bearing ends and now you are scaring me alittle about my dse moser 9"

I just don't think those bearings are cut out to take the kind of abuse they're given if you have wide wheels and drive the car hard. At the first several events I thought the brakes really sucked. Hell, I had I hard time stopping in the provided area on a Good Guys autocross. With those bearings, fixed calipers and a manual 7/8" master cylinder it was less than ideal for an idiot like me to do, especially if I had to do a panic stop for some reason. Literally every gradual turn would push the pistons back into the rear brake calipers.

If you are worried about youre Moser 9" just check it out before you get the car running and if you feel uncomfortable about it change the bolts out like I had to do.

Matt

[brotourer]

Matt,

After giving you so much crap about painting your car purple while we were doing the build, I figured it would only be fair to paint my car in similar fashion. Lets hope we don't start a trend!

-brotourer