ATS 50/50 Camaro

[ironworks]

Hay Tyler if you lucky we might have some pics for ya that will really give you something to be thankful for. We merged the shop car 63 chassis with your suspension on the table today and will slide the jig under the car tommorrow. Then look out it will go really fast from they with those 6 sticks of 4130 we got today.

[XcYZ]

There's no way that cage is an out the door, finished product from Wayne. No way. Something is fishy here. It looks to me like a 'proof of concept' excersize or something quickly put together to keep the body held together when the floor was cut out or something tacked in so the car could be transported.

Are you being honest with us, Tyler? You already made up a story at the start of this thread, is this just more of the same?

[dhutton]

Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones

I know, I'm just teasing you. Is it Rallye Green?
Tyler

Funny how that color takes so much abuse. I had a 69 Z28 that was rally green with white stripes. I've liked that color combo ever since I saw it on a Z28 back when they were new. I did a frame off on it and people would always ask me why I painted it green.

Don

[clill]

"I know, I'm just teasing you. Is it Rallye Green?"

I don't have the Rally Green L89 anymore. It is the 67 Pace car but technically it is kinda #'s matching because it has the drivetrain that was installed at GM engineering. Not quite assembly line but close.

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

There's no way that cage is an out the door, finished product from Wayne. No way. Something is fishy here. It looks to me like a 'proof of concept' excersize or something quickly put together to keep the body held together when the floor was cut out or something tacked in so the car could be transported.

Are you being honest with us, Tyler? You already made up a story at the start of this thread, is this just more of the same?

Scott Trust me this was a completed product, All of the unwelded sections were in area that were inaccesible. The big gap was on the front roll cage down bars. When we started on this project Tyler and I had no idea it would get to this point. From our experience of fixing other peoples crap it seems like these guy were manufacturing guys, not one off fabricators. There were many more issues that were not right that go with the poor roll cage design. The wheel base was off by about .375 of an inch, it is really noticible in a 67-68 due to the round fenderwell openings. Figuring out the wheelbase on this should be pretty easy 107 = Camaro, 104.5 = C5 vette, if I lengthen the torque tube 3.5" we should be on the dot, not 3.125. There was alot of craziness going on with the floor, being double paneled for no apprent reason. We had to cut the torque tube hoops out of the car to be able to remove the torque tube, there was no way to get it out to replace the clutch. When we cut the hoops out the frame srung about .5 of an inch. The lower suspnsion cradles were about .375 -.5 of an inch off from square. It got so bad I called Tyler and told him I had started tube chassis deal laying around, that I would put up to just stop the madness.

So hopefully later today you will see the results of just starting over.

[68protouring454]

sounds like a great project roger.
btw, the camaro wheelbase is 108.
can't wait to watch this project come to life

[XcYZ]

With your fabrication, Rodger, it's going to be badass! Looking forward to updates.

[ironworks]

I'm still on basic math. 2+3=5 or 104.5+3.5=108 yeah I don't have that many fingers and toes. I guess I could have had all the guys in my shop take there shoes off but it is cold the morning, like 45 degrees.

Thanks

[68protouring454]

man you cali girlys, 40 degrees, hell we got 6 inches of snow yesterday and rain, the day before is was 5 degrees when i woke up.
hell, i would love to be a cali girly for that weather
can't wait to follow this one

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

With your fabrication, Rodger, it's going to be badass! Looking forward to updates.

Well so far Erik has done all the fab, He does alot of our tube bending and rolling work. He did the rollcage in Rich's Camaro, and alot of work on Mick's wedge sectioned chevelle chassis.

Rodger