Driverz, Inc.

[usa-69z]

does anyone know who Jon would have placed my american racing wheels order with? he claims they were ordered but not paid for? this may be another untruth, but id like to call some one to check,, maybe my wheels are some where and still available? wheelpros, or american racing? its hard to find any phone contact details for any of these companys.

any one help?

Gav

[usa-69z]

yes , 'the penny pinching' comment was unwarranted ,, another 'cheerleader perhaps?

[Vegas69]

Who transfers power before the deal closes? That is the real problem.

[FETorino]

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[The WidowMaker]

guys, unless the transfer was a lie, there is NO shady business. if he took your money with the intent to close the business then i totally agree. if he planned to transfer, thought he transfered and then travis backed out it would set anyone back. do you guys really expect him not to take orders a few months from a planned transfer? how is that supposed to be smooth?

and saying jon is travis is just plain stupid at this point. multiple people have commented that they met the guy. lets give up the bs and try and stay with the facts we have.

i only speak out since i had some first hand experience with my wheel order and working with the guy in charge of actually making them. rushforth and jon had nothing to do with my delay even though jon sold me the wheels and its rushforths company. i could have called jon all day long and bitched like others do, but it wouldnt have done any good. hes not making the wheels and hes not in anything but phone contact with the guy that is. i still dont understand why so much blame gets put on these vendors for delays. if they dont send your money off and instead pocket it or screw something up its one thing, but to answer calls all day long for something thats not your fault sucks.

i too hope jon comes on here and comments. even an excuse about lawyers would be better than nothing. and until a cc comany denies a claim, no one is out anything but time and peace. well thats unless youre like me and paid to have your wheels balanced and the fronts never got done. count me as being owed 20 bucks.

I don't think you are a cheerleader. You are a TOOL

i feel for you and i really hope you get your money back, but calling him names isnt cool here. thats what makes this site the best. we should be able to have conversations with differing opinions without all the bs that other sites allow.

[Vegas69]

To say a business is under new ownership and give them access to the money BEFORE the deal is sealed is on one person, JON. He is responsibe for protecting the assets of HIS business until he's no longer the legal owner.

Who knows that real truth but with a suspended business license, no website, no facebook account, and no response, it's not good. That I can guarantee. I have no pony in this parade but I hate to see good people get taken to the cleaners.

[The WidowMaker]

To say a business is under new ownership and give them access to the money BEFORE the deal is sealed is on one person, JON. He is responsibe for protecting the assets of HIS business until he's no longer the legal owner.

Who knows that real truth but with a suspended business license, no website, no facebook account, and no response, it's not good. That I can guarantee. I have no pony in this parade but I hate to see good people get taken to the cleaners.

ive never owned a bus or taken bus classes, but i assume thats entry level stuff right there. i too hope everyone gets every penny back and i hope guys dont get too angry at others over this. the "cheerleaders" know him better than others and are just holding out hope that this isnt what it appears. i can promise you that no one will be a cheerleader if the truth matches the accusations above.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

To say a business is under new ownership and give them access to the money BEFORE the deal is sealed is on one person, JON. He is responsibe for protecting the assets of HIS business until he's no longer the legal owner.

Who knows that real truth but with a suspended business license, no website, no facebook account, and no response, it's not good. That I can guarantee. I have no pony in this parade but I hate to see good people get taken to the cleaners.

Bingo. Jon's business his responsibility. His lack of public response says it all.

[rfrankb4]

Originally Posted by parsonsj

Have you seen the PT.com Feedback forum?

http://www.pro-touring.com/forumdisp...p?121-Feedback

It's been in place for over a year.

I like PT.com as well but there is little doubt that the structure of the feedback system functions to kill threads asap that might be negative about the vendors.

Between the fast thread death and being so far down the list that it is never seen I know I assumed it was not intended to be a source of serious information about vendors.

No offense intended.

I know these forums are a business and it never pays to poke at the people who pay a lot of the bill. However, as a consumer it does make it more difficult to find legitimate information when good experiences are talked about on the front page in depth and negative experiences are stored at the proverbial back of the book and kept as short as possible effectively locking threads.

[parsonsj]

Originally Posted by Frank

Between the fast thread death and being so far down the list that it is never seen I know I assumed it was not intended to be a source of serious information about vendors.

No offense intended.

You're wrong. No offense intended.

The Feedback forum functions as a place for direct interaction between consumers and vendors. It's intent is to provide a transparent place for such conversations, with a secondary effect of building a searchable database about vendors. If you have a look today, you'll see several threads about Driverz, and if you search, you'll find a dozen or more complaints over the past year.