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nitrorocket · #**101** 09-04-2006, 10:48 AM

BACK TO BRAKES OR I AM GOING TO KNOCK SOME HEADS!!

68protouring454 · #**102** 09-04-2006, 10:50 AM

think i am busting you out??
i just said he should go out make his car safe and drive it, change/upgrade things as he goes.
you bust me out saying i am unhappy about my front brakes.
i then ask you what you have for brakes, so i forgot it was a war.

fatlife · #**103** 09-04-2006, 10:50 AM

should be, I just typed it. Not sure if the F body stuff is directional, and also I think the F body rotor is like 12.3" or something. pretty sure the rest is all %100 correct

nitrorocket · #**104** 09-04-2006, 10:55 AM

So the pistons on the c5 and Z28 front calipers are the same size??? I don't car about the Z rotors, they are too small!

fatlife · #**105** 09-04-2006, 10:57 AM

Yes, the same size, the only differnece I am aware of, is that the abutment is different to mount the caliper over a smaller rotor, and the caliper doesn't have the cooling fins built into the top of the caliper.

68protouring454 · #**106** 09-04-2006, 11:08 AM

fat life, do you work for ap racing? stoptech?? precision brakes??
wow with all this techincal help its amazing, to think someone from a big brake company is here giving us all this great info and feedback, thanks

nitrorocket · #**107** 09-04-2006, 11:09 AM

I wonder how much the fins really help disipitate heat?? By abundment, do you mean the caliper bracket the caliper bolts too????

nitrorocket · #**108** 09-04-2006, 11:13 AM

68... We are grown men and are easily mis understood and do not always come off as we actually are through typing. Lets give evryone on here the benifit of the doubt, and start over. I for one knw a ton on drag racing setup and motor building along with turbo and tuning tech, you have your area of knowledge that you a best in, and Fat, seems to have done his research on brakes pretty well.

Sound good??

fatlife · #**109** 09-04-2006, 11:15 AM

yes, that the abutment, the caliper assembly is a 2 piece assembly. If you look at my brakes on my site, you can see it is the shiny black piece. Not sure about the fins doing much, but it gives the caliper more surface area which allows the heat to disperse more. You can come across C5 calipers so easily and cheaply, I dont see the reason to go with the F body ones, unless you they were free. If you shop wisely you can get C5 rotors at napa for I think like $30 each, then all you need is the calipers; ebay prob like $100 for the pair used, then all you need is good pads; $150. This will get you in the door, and you won't have much of an investment. Then down the road you can spend some real coin on a real set of brakes, but you will probably want some better wheels/tires then also, and you can get a bigger rotor etc at the same time. Whether on a bike or car, I know that on my first time on the track, I barely even used the brake!!

Just learning what turn is coming next, and how to get setup for it, takes enough of your attention away. But RA looks pretty easy to remember, and you will be needing some good stopping power on that straight away!! Just get some good pads, that will be the key factor, you might go to a vette site and go to the trackday section and see what people are using;
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=23

fatlife · #**110** 09-04-2006, 11:24 AM

while doing some research for you on the vette board I came across this post, which has some info about the z51 rotors which is similar to what I said about the Z51 rotors;

"I have 8 track days on my Toyo and they still have half their tread left.
With the PFC pads ($400 set F+R) since they are so aggressive you will go through solid non drilled front rotors in 6-16 track days. Original equipment rotors for the Z51 are around $100-115 ea. Most track dogs convert down in rotor size to the base non drilled 12.8" instead of the 13.4" drilled rotor. You can buy napa "base 12.8" rotors for about $25 ea. The brakes on all C6 are virtually the same(Z51 has smaller pistons on the rear but uses the same caliper) only the Z06 being vastly different."

and I ran across this also;
"The directional cooling vanes on one side of the Z51 are pointing in the wrong direction, so they are trying to scoop air in while the spinning rotor is trying to throw it out. Someone recently reported an increase on the right side by 30F when racing on the track."

this is all just internet gossip but sounds believable to me.
I'll see what I can find about the pads, I believe carbotech makes a good C5 pad. Heard nothing but good things. Not sure if Ferrodo makes car brakes, but they are really Killer pads

Heres a good thread about brake pads, but rememer you don't have ABS, you have way more power, and way heavier, but still should be some good reading for you, if you get that AFX spindle, which only takes corvette brakes, so it should be good to know whats out there;
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ight=z51+rotor

and Nitro, what you said is right on, I am no expert, and am no guru either, but I have done a bunch of research, and am just trying to relay the info I have learned, not claiming I made any of it up, or am some expert. I don't think there is anything wrong with that