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Track Junky · #**1131** 05-23-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

I'm trying out A6's ---- Gaetano is running R6's.... He doesn't run all that often -- in fact -- I think it's been two years since he last paraded around the track... :>)

A6's will last you about 4 laps then they get slick. Most of the serious NASA Time Trial guys would use them to get quicker times and spend less time on the track beating up there cars.
You shouldn't worry though. At your pace you probably wont even reach optimum temps.

**GregWeld** · #**1132** 05-23-2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky

A6's will last you about 4 laps then they get slick. Most of the serious NASA Time Trial guys would use them to get quicker times and spend less time on the track beating up there cars.
You shouldn't worry though. At your pace you probably wont even reach optimum temps.

Ron told me to keep the tires happy.... so that's my new mission in life -- Happy tires!!

HAHAHAHAHA

I've had this tire discussion with 9 million guys... they all have something to say... and I'll 100% guarantee that not one of them has ever checked their tire temperatures - or used a durometer... or have the right air pressure -- it's all hearsay and someone told someone one time about this guy they know. Ron, however, is using all his magic tools to guide me and the car... so I'll go with what HE KNOWS... not what someone else. I'll give the A6's a shot - if they come up to temp too quickly - he'll know it - and we'll do something different.

BTW -- if you think the A6's are soft - you should feel what the Yoko A005's feel like for the Lotus! Chewing gum on a hot sidewalk.... You'd think these wouldn't last 2 laps -- but my buddy that actually IS the Lotus Cup Unlimited Champion says that's what I should be running.... Since he's the US Champion in the same car -- I'll go with it. At $1800 a set... they gotta last more than 2 sessions!

**Flash68** · #**1133** 05-23-2014, 10:53 PM

You gotta remember Gaetano doesn't hang around a bunch of Pro Posers... he's been at the track talking to NASA guys... running TT and other classes. They are doers.

Read the NASA forums (these guys run on the track more than post on the internet about wanting to run on a track). Many indeed have been switching to A6 in recent years over the R6.

Wait, did I just give Gaetano a compliment?

Can't we talk about 200 TW tires again?

**Sieg** · #**1134** 05-23-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

Ron told me to keep the tires happy.... so that's my new mission in life -- Happy tires!!

Here's your new official track day wake up music:

I know.............you can thank me later.

Vince@Meanstreets · #**1135** 05-23-2014, 11:13 PM

haaa you should have posted the 24 hour video. bet it would have been quiet for about 22 hours.

Track Junky · #**1136** 05-23-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

Ron told me to keep the tires happy.... so that's my new mission in life -- Happy tires!!

HAHAHAHAHA

I've had this tire discussion with 9 million guys... they all have something to say... and I'll 100% guarantee that not one of them has ever checked their tire temperatures - or used a durometer... or have the right air pressure -- it's all hearsay and someone told someone one time about this guy they know. Ron, however, is using all his magic tools to guide me and the car... so I'll go with what HE KNOWS... not what someone else. I'll give the A6's a shot - if they come up to temp too quickly - he'll know it - and we'll do something different.

BTW -- if you think the A6's are soft - you should feel what the Yoko A005's feel like for the Lotus! Chewing gum on a hot sidewalk.... You'd think these wouldn't last 2 laps -- but my buddy that actually IS the Lotus Cup Unlimited Champion says that's what I should be running.... Since he's the US Champion in the same car -- I'll go with it. At $1800 a set... they gotta last more than 2 sessions!

The A6's will come in within half a lap. That's what makes them nice. There also about a second faster than the R6's and typically the 3rd or 4th lap would be there fastest lap. After that they just came in because the tires would get slick and there times wouldn't get any better.
But hey, I'm willing to let you prove me wrong on your dime.

**GregWeld** · #**1137** 05-23-2014, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68

You gotta remember Gaetano doesn't hang around a bunch of Pro Posers... he's been at the track talking to NASA guys... running TT and other classes. They are doers.

Read the NASA forums (these guys run on the track more than post on the internet about wanting to run on a track). Many indeed have been switching to A6 in recent years over the R6.

Wait, did I just give Gaetano a compliment?

Can't we talk about 200 TW tires again?

I'm not saying Big G doesn't know what he's talking about -- or even the guys he may be hanging with...

BUT --- ALWAYS THE BIG BUTT....

Peoples cars are different - different weights - different everything.... this isn't spec racing. So what works for one guy and doesn't work for someone else is really just pure useless information as far as I'm concerned. IT's got to be done on a case by case basis...

What tracks people are running - how hard they're running - and all of that - there's just so many variables. So an A6 on one car is different than on another car depending on so many things. What's the ambient temp? etc.

As usual -- I'm always trying to post knowing that many other people may be reading this stuff... so I'm also throwing things in as food for thought. Some read and never post...

**GregWeld** · #**1138** 05-23-2014, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky

The A6's will come in within half a lap. That's what makes them nice. There also about a second faster than the R6's and typically the 3rd or 4th lap would be there fastest lap. After that they just came in because the tires would get slick and there times wouldn't get any better.
But hey, I'm willing to let you prove me wrong on your dime.

I think you're missing the point.

RON took my tire temps after a full 9 laps -- multiple sessions over a two day period -- he writes them all down every time -- and THOSE ACTUAL TIRE TEMPS lead us to think that the A6 will be a better choice.

It's just real simple. The temps are the tell. Doesn't make ANY difference to me what worked or didn't on someone else's car or run. We're going by what MY car and tires told us. I have to go with a guy that has 468 wins and ran pro car teams... I'm pretty confident he's not just trying to sell tires (since he doesn't sell tires).

Vince@Meanstreets · #**1139** 05-23-2014, 11:53 PM

yet.....

Vegas69 · #**1140** 05-24-2014, 08:11 AM

The rich bastard has a pro crew chief, what's next, Ron Fellow's in the passenger seat at all the events?

I agree Greg, I'll add driving skill and at what level you are pushing the car. Since you are older and more experienced, I see you as a more patient racer that doesn't abuse the tires. I would think you could get by with an A6 more easily than a 10/10ths guy or one with poor chassis balance. For me, it would be what gives me the best consistency over five, twenty minute sessions.