School bully issue, opinions wanted

[70rs]

Originally Posted by GM Muscle

good deal. im glad your kid's on the right track. the kids these days are just flat out weird!! i think no one being held accountable for their actions (parents and kids) is the root of most of the problems everyone faces these days..

That is just it. No one is being called out on what they do anymore. It is all about who can come up with the best excuse or who is better at pointing fingers.
But in the end all we can do is keep our own side of the street clean.

I see some STELLAR examples of parents around here. It amazes me that someone thinks a crying 2 year old needs a serious spanking in a public store (or at all for that matter) just because they are crying. Or because the asked for something in the store and the parent beats them instead of explaining to them why they can't have it. Kids are a direct product of the environment they are raised in. But the parents raising these little monsters will not take ANY responsibility for what they have done. Unfortunatley a lot of the time the only way to get someones attention these days is with a trip to jail or court getting sued.
I am shocked at how some people treat their kids. I see it all the time. I saw a lady reach into her back seat and slap her baby in the face just the other day. The baby had to be under two years old and was crying for some reason. Maybe the kid dropped a toy? Maybe it was hungry? Maybe needed a change of diaper? I don't know. But I can not think of ANY good reason to slap a baby for crying. Why not get out of the car, off her fat ass, put the cigarette down and see what the kid needs. Then provide what it needs. Be a parent, not a "keeper". I was so pissed at her I could not see straight. Unfortunatley she was in the turn lane next to me and went in a different direction when the light changed, I didn't get a look at the lic plate.

I think there should be a test of some sort for anyone who wants to have a kid. Make sure they have the common sense and can handle it before running off and having a whole soccer team of future felons. Just my .02 on that.

[70rs]

Hey guys,
I just wanted to update this and let everyone know that the school has really taken this issue seriously. So far everything they said they would do they have done. And there have been ZERO problems so far. I couldn't be happier. And my son is getting back in the groove of things again and seems much more relaxed at home and at school.

I wanted to thank everyone for the advice, opinions and help since I posted the problem. The amount of goodwill here is just amazing. Thanks again guys!

[dezl]

good deal man, glad everything worked out!

[tones2SS]

Very good to hear Eric. That is great news for your entire family.
GOOD DEAL!

[coolwelder62]

Rising a child is the important & hardess job in the world.And any goof ball is aloud to do it.Every child is important and should be risied that way.They need to be taught right & wrong.When they are not loved or taught the right way to treat there fellow man that when these types of problems come up.

[1970camaroRS]

Originally Posted by 70rs

I think there should be a test of some sort for anyone who wants to have a kid. Make sure they have the common sense and can handle it before running off and having a whole soccer team of future felons. Just my .02 on that.

We would all fail.

[novanutcase]

Originally Posted by 70rs

Hey guys,
I just wanted to update this and let everyone know that the school has really taken this issue seriously. So far everything they said they would do they have done. And there have been ZERO problems so far. I couldn't be happier. And my son is getting back in the groove of things again and seems much more relaxed at home and at school.

I wanted to thank everyone for the advice, opinions and help since I posted the problem. The amount of goodwill here is just amazing. Thanks again guys!

Hi Eric,

After reading this thread I really have to commend you on taking the route you did although I don't think I would have been as tolerant or patient as you and would have taken Franks advice at a much earlier point. I agree with Frank that the social structure that exists in grade school almost demands that that type of response be made although I understand your hesitance that he do this at such an early age.

One question I do have is, although the school is doing everything they said they would, how long will they be doing this? To have an assistant standing around in class to keep this kid under control is EXPENSIVE for the school district! Once the staff and the district feel that the problem has been "solved" they'll probably pull the assistant. Once he's gone the problem will still be there. Maybe that's why I lean a little more towards Franks suggestion as the same thing happened to my son. Some kid was bullying him and the school district was doing nothing about it even though I had countless meetings with them. In my last meeting I gave the staff an ultimatum that if they were going to let this persist that my attorney would be contacting the school districts attorney and I would give my son free reign on this kids face. They still did nothing and my son came home with some bruises on his arm. I had had enough. I told him that if ANYONE tried to hurt him that he had every right to defend himself. About a week later I get a call from the principal telling me my son had attacked this kid! Luckily I had documented our past meetings and brought all my paperwork along with my attorney to the meeting.

Boy did they're attitude change once my attorney showed up!

They assured me that they would take care of the matter, blah blah blah!

BS! I told them that it was too late and that I was preparing legal action against the teacher, the principal and the district. I gathered my son and my attorney and I left the meeting. I don't thing we got past the parking lot when my attorneys cell phone rings. Guess who was calling him? The LAUSD attorneys office!

Suffice to say that my sons record was wiped clean and the kid never bothered my son again!

John

[70rs]

Originally Posted by novanutcase

Hi Eric,

After reading this thread I really have to commend you on taking the route you did although I don't think I would have been as tolerant or patient as you and would have taken Franks advice at a much earlier point. I agree with Frank that the social structure that exists in grade school almost demands that that type of response be made although I understand your hesitance that he do this at such an early age.

One question I do have is, although the school is doing everything they said they would, how long will they be doing this? To have an assistant standing around in class to keep this kid under control is EXPENSIVE for the school district! Once the staff and the district feel that the problem has been "solved" they'll probably pull the assistant. Once he's gone the problem will still be there. Maybe that's why I lean a little more towards Franks suggestion as the same thing happened to my son. Some kid was bullying him and the school district was doing nothing about it even though I had countless meetings with them. In my last meeting I gave the staff an ultimatum that if they were going to let this persist that my attorney would be contacting the school districts attorney and I would give my son free reign on this kids face. They still did nothing and my son came home with some bruises on his arm. I had had enough. I told him that if ANYONE tried to hurt him that he had every right to defend himself. About a week later I get a call from the principal telling me my son had attacked this kid! Luckily I had documented our past meetings and brought all my paperwork along with my attorney to the meeting.

Boy did they're attitude change once my attorney showed up!

They assured me that they would take care of the matter, blah blah blah!

BS! I told them that it was too late and that I was preparing legal action against the teacher, the principal and the district. I gathered my son and my attorney and I left the meeting. I don't thing we got past the parking lot when my attorneys cell phone rings. Guess who was calling him? The LAUSD attorneys office!

Suffice to say that my sons record was wiped clean and the kid never bothered my son again!

John

John,
Believe me, the next step is my son cleaning his clock and my attorney cleaning the school districts. I know it is a matter of time before they think the problem is "solved" and remove any supervision from the other kid. I HOPE that the counseling and intervention in his home by the state will work to keep any future incidents from happening. But I am also realistic and know that the odds of that are slim. It will come down to my son defending himself with force. And at that time the legal crap gets deep. But I have everything documented and I have done everything a responsible parent should do to fix this mess. If it comes to my son beating the other kid, so be it. At least we tried. But I had to take the high road FIRST. For many reasons.
Thanks for the advice. I do appreciate all of it.

[70rs]

Quick update.

There has been drastic improvements with this issue. My son has been happier at school. The other boy that was the problem has been getting A LOT of attention from the school staff and is headed in the right direction at this point. He needed some serious help and guidance and is getting it.
So overall it has improved by leaps and bounds. It has not been without it's little speed bumps but overall much better for everyone involved.

Thanks again to everyone who offered input. All of it was of great help in getting this handled.
Have a great weekend everyone!

[tones2SS]

Good to hear buddy.
Have a good one.