JCG Restoration & Customs 68 Camaro Test Car

[GRob]

Love that hood - will you make it in cf?

[Nessumsar]

Originally Posted by Cris@JCG

Yummy! Now thats what i'm talking about.

[syborg tt]

Okay so what are your plans with these and what is going to be different from stock ?

Originally Posted by Cris@JCG

We finally got to build our uprights for our suspension! Our weld fixture worked great & took about 45 minutes to fix & weld the first prototype.. I have a car that we will be bolting them to in a few weeks to test & proof the prototype.. Some Blu car that I got lurking around the shop..

[Cris@JCG]

I have no logical explanation why we did these spindles.. It was just a challenging project for us to do.. J/K.. It has to do with cost.. When I priced out the GM spindles with the manufacturing of the steering arm.. It was expensive.. SO we just went ahead & designed our own C6 Upright.. It maintains the stock geometry but has our steering arm built into it for our suspension.. Right now I am waiting for these new ball joints that should be available soon that will have a steel pivot ball instead of a nylon that comes stock in the C6 upright plus has a grease zert fitting.. Plus I can make my own pin so that I can do dual tapped bearings with aluminum hubs.. Then we can have the great debate about steel vs aluminum.. Yes my steel spindles will be a bit heavier than the GM aluminum ones.. but I have my reason why I prefer the steel ones instead .. The bottom line I just have always wanted to do a spindle project since I saw the ones Mike Maiers did for Brian’s car.. Now I know more about how GM made their uprights.. press fit of ball joints.. tapers on the ball joints & their bearing packs..

Originally Posted by 64pontiac

Looking good Cris! Always taking things farther eh? Just curious though, were aluminum spindles not good enough? What kind of geometry changes did you make to justify the time? They look awesome, just curious! I knwo you always have a reason for doing stuff!

Originally Posted by syborg tt

Okay so what are your plans with these and what is going to be different from stock ?

[Cris@JCG]

I will make some hoods but not @ high production runs.. Their is talk about a master pattern.. more molds to make more than one hood @ a time.. but that takes $$$.. I am just making parts out of composite for what I want on some of my builds .. If I can sell a few pcs.. that will be good.. but do not want to get involved in selling a full line of composite parts..

Originally Posted by village idiot

Will those become production pieces for sale to us mere mortals?

We will be making one out of CF this week!

Originally Posted by GRob

Love that hood - will you make it in cf?

[64pontiac]

How the heck do you find time to do all this!!! It's cool to see you pursue the track stuff heavily....something a bit different!

Keep it up! Gotta say though, how come you haven't re-engineered a dipstick yet?!??!?!? (Inside joke....)

[syborg tt]

I think that pretty much sums up why we all here. None of us really need to build these cars but it pretty cool that we do.

Originally Posted by Cris@JCG

I have no logical explanation why we did these spindles.. It was just a challenging project for us to do.. J/K.. It has to do with cost.. When I priced out the GM spindles with the manufacturing of the steering arm.. It was expensive.. SO we just went ahead & designed our own C6 Upright.. It maintains the stock geometry but has our steering arm built into it for our suspension.. Right now I am waiting for these new ball joints that should be available soon that will have a steel pivot ball instead of a nylon that comes stock in the C6 upright plus has a grease zert fitting.. Plus I can make my own pin so that I can do dual tapped bearings with aluminum hubs.. Then we can have the great debate about steel vs aluminum.. Yes my steel spindles will be a bit heavier than the GM aluminum ones.. but I have my reason why I prefer the steel ones instead .. The bottom line I just have always wanted to do a spindle project since I saw the ones Mike Maiers did for Brian’s car.. Now I know more about how GM made their uprights.. press fit of ball joints.. tapers on the ball joints & their bearing packs..

[preston]

So how much do those steel uprights weigh ?

I *think* the stock ones are as light as 6 lbs with ball joint ?

[dontlifttoshift]

Cris, am I seeing that right or are my eyes playing tricks. The main section of the upright where the hub would bolt up, It looks like there is an inner and outer plate that sandwiches another plate in the middle. So three pieces making up that thickness there?

[Cris@JCG]

I will soon be doing weight comparison..

Originally Posted by preston

So how much do those steel uprights weigh ?

I *think* the stock ones are as light as 6 lbs with ball joint ?

Donny- it is 3 pcs.. reason for doing this is make all steel pcs inter-lock for tying in all pcs...

Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift

Cris, am I seeing that right or are my eyes playing tricks. The main section of the upright where the hub would bolt up, It looks like there is an inner and outer plate that sandwiches another plate in the middle. So three pieces making up that thickness there?