1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by DFRESH

I'm pretty sure Jody and Scott have had to quit their day jobs just to manage this thread.

Who do you think prompted the thread to promote supporting memberships? Thankyouverymuch.

Originally Posted by FETorino

Hey I never did that my highjack was subtle trying to get him over to my build thread to see my intake.

But since I'm already guilty this is what carb stuff looks like.





Highjack complete

Killer stuff... love it. For that, your highjack is approved.

Originally Posted by sixnina

Hey Dave,
So with all the added power comes more heat,may have missed it but whats your plans on upgrading the cooling system if any?
Shane

Good question. Sure there will be some more heat, but I have an aftermarket block now that should provide improved cooling and my radiator is a decent one that should handle the load. We are convinced the overheating issue at RTTC was a direct result of the prolonged detonation sustained. I really should have mixed race gas in the tank for protection and I will never do an event without throwing some in there in the future. It's fairly cheap protection but nice to not require it when street driving or even an autoX event I figure.

The oil cooling system seemed to be working and again until the detonation presented itself, thats when water and oil temps shot up. I recall I have read there may be a slight aid in oil cooling from the Accusump? Not sure if that's true or how significant that could be though.

So I hope no changes needed in this department. Thanks for asking.

[intocarss]

[QUOTE=Flash68;412226]Good question. Sure there will be some more heat, but I have an aftermarket block now that should provide improved cooling and my radiator is a decent one that should handle the load. We are convinced the overheating issue at RTTC was a direct result of the prolonged detonation sustained. I really should have mixed race gas in the tank for protection and I will never do an event without throwing some in there in the future. It's fairly cheap protection but nice to not require it when street driving or even an autoX event I figure.

[QUOTE] Leaving the A/C off during track events will make a difference too

[Flash68]

Leaving the A/C off during track events will make a difference too

Check!

[Matt@BOS]

Dave, the Accusump should help a little with oil temps, as you will be benefiting from increased volume which will help dissipate heat a little. I've been toying with the idea of adding one myself, but I'm not really sure I need it since I don't really plan on long sessions on big tracks. Are you adding an oil cooler as well? You know, while you're at it

Matt

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Good question. Sure there will be some more heat, but I have an aftermarket block now that should provide improved cooling and my radiator is a decent one that should handle the load. We are convinced the overheating issue at RTTC was a direct result of the prolonged detonation sustained. I really should have mixed race gas in the tank for protection and I will never do an event without throwing some in there in the future. It's fairly cheap protection but nice to not require it when street driving or even an autoX event I figure.

The oil cooling system seemed to be working and again until the detonation presented itself, thats when water and oil temps shot up. I recall I have read there may be a slight aid in oil cooling from the Accusump? Not sure if that's true or how significant that could be though.

So I hope no changes needed in this department. Thanks for asking.

I know you were considering a dry sump at one point. Any more thought about that. You can definitely keep the oil temps consistent with a dry sump system. Plus the advantage of crankcase vacuum you can add some hp.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Dave, the Accusump should help a little with oil temps, as you will be benefiting from increased volume which will help dissipate heat a little. I've been toying with the idea of adding one myself, but I'm not really sure I need it since I don't really plan on long sessions on big tracks. Are you adding an oil cooler as well? You know, while you're at it

Matt

Yeah it makes sense the added 3 quarts would help temps. It was either dry sump or accusump for me, but I wanted this modding session to be easy as possible. Dry sump presented many more changes ($$).

So you don't think you'll do any track days? Ahem, Buttonwillow! I mean, a session is a session and they are long and while my previous motor was not worth a lot of money, my new motor is and yours is big $ so I think it's cheap protection. It's pretty easy to plumb in and only a few hundred bucks for everything.

Oh, oil cooler was already done last year. Decent sized Earl's piece with -10An lines and the Mocal 180* thermostat.

[Track Junky]

Dont forget to flush your oil cooler and lines. Hate to see any gremlins from your last escapade wind up in your new motor.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by FETorino

I know you were considering a dry sump at one point. Any more thought about that. You can definitely keep the oil temps consistent with a dry sump system. Plus the advantage of crankcase vacuum you can add some hp.

Yeah I was very close to pulling the trigger on a system but a couple things changed my mind. Most of the nice pans I was looking at were too deep for my stock sub. So likely in the future there will be a different chassis under this car (more like a 3 year plan) and a new motor with dry sump. I made sacrifices for power (compression) and oiling (dry sump) on this motor, but I plan on phase 3 in maybe 3 years being a high compression dry sump Nascar type motor, something like Maier's Roush Yates Nationwide motor. But that's later... but I do consider where I think I'll be in 3 years to help make decisions today.

I definitely was liking the added hp of the dry sump as well. I estimated 20-30 hp over a wet sump based on my research.

Is your FE dry sump?

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Dont forget to flush your oil cooler and lines. Hate to see any gremlins from your last escapade wind up in your new motor.

Good call. We'll be sure to do that.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Is your FE dry sump?

Yes. With the RS chassis the typical road race pan would have my motor up higher in the chassis. The dry sump allows me three things.

1 Better oiling
2 Motor lower and farther back since my pan will be 3.5" deep max
3 Vacuum in the crankcase for more hp

I am trying to decide between Dailey and an integrated pump and AL pan or Aviad and a steel pan with external oil lines.