Shooting in Connecticut

[Shmoov69]

Tinfoil hat anyone?!?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Yeah Jimmy, I don't know what to think.

First reports I heard was from a Sgt. He stated that 2 handguns were found next to the gun man. A search of his mothers vehicle turned up a shotgun and an AR rifle.
Then a second suspect was seen fleeing into the woods, now they recant that also. I don't think anyone knew what was going.

As far as the turn to foriegn versus US violence....I have idea, so no comment.

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

The gun debate could go on forever....


I'm still mourning for the children - staff - parents - town... of Newtown, CT. regardless of how they were killed or why.

That about sums it up for me.

[Vegas69]

My letter has been sent to:

Senator Reid
Governor Sandoval
Mayor Hafen
School District Superintendent Dr. Jones

Attempt to make your voice heard.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^ Yeah Nick --- I can't emphasize that enough.

The rest of the discussion is just a way for people to try to vent some frustration... and get their heads around such senseless acts.

I sometimes refer to a sign I used to have on my desk:

Try not to let what's urgent get in the way of what's important.

[Stuart Adams]

It's all about access to whatever venue a bad person want to committ. Access is the key. Until access is adressed people will find ways to hurt others. Gun control is pointless unless you stop the ability of bad or sick people gaining access to be able to hurt innocent people. Could be bombs, fire, guns, chemical agents, knifes shanks, etc. etc.

Kinda hard to get a gun on an airplane now isn't it.

[GregWeld]

In this case -- the access was via his own Mother...

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams

It's all about access to whatever venue a bad person want to committ. Access is the key. Until access is adressed people will find ways to hurt others. Gun control is pointless unless you stop the ability of bad or sick people gaining access to be able to hurt innocent people. Could be bombs, fire, guns, chemical agents, knifes shanks, etc. etc.

Kinda hard to get a gun on an airplane now isn't it.

How exactly do you accomplish this goal of keeping bad people away from innocent people?

Does every school, mall, theatre, office building etc need a single entrance with full body scanners?

Do you retrofit all schools with either bullet proof glass thick enough to stop armor piercing assault weapon rounds, or just make the windows so small no one can get through them?

Access is without a doubt an area that we could improve on that could reduce the effectiveness of the people doing these things. For example in Sandy Hook they had the doors locked down, but it took him basically no time to get inside and start murdering people. Even just slowing people down can make a huge difference as it gives law enforcement time to show up.

I know that schools are being designed these days with these sorts of events in mind. There was a new story locally about a firm that designs most schools in our state and they talked about some of it.

My point though is that I think you can only do so much here without making daily life a borderline prison for kids and adults. I don't want to get a body cavity search every time I go to the theatre and I don't want my daughter going to school in a place that has metal detectors, police everywhere, slits for windows, thick bulletproof glass, teachers with AR15s, etc.

[Stuart Adams]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

In this case -- the access was via his own Mother...

He just walked on campus. He could have had a bomb and no one would know.

[Stuart Adams]

Originally Posted by realcoray

How exactly do you accomplish this goal of keeping bad people away from innocent people?

Does every school, mall, theatre, office building etc need a single entrance with full body scanners?

Do you retrofit all schools with either bullet proof glass thick enough to stop armor piercing assault weapon rounds, or just make the windows so small no one can get through them?

Access is without a doubt an area that we could improve on that could reduce the effectiveness of the people doing these things. For example in Sandy Hook they had the doors locked down, but it took him basically no time to get inside and start murdering people. Even just slowing people down can make a huge difference as it gives law enforcement time to show up.

I know that schools are being designed these days with these sorts of events in mind. There was a new story locally about a firm that designs most schools in our state and they talked about some of it.

My point though is that I think you can only do so much here without making daily life a borderline prison for kids and adults. I don't want to get a body cavity search every time I go to the theatre and I don't want my daughter going to school in a place that has metal detectors, police everywhere, slits for windows, thick bulletproof glass, teachers with AR15s, etc.

Unfortunately that is reality. It sucks, but at any given time some whack job can go off anywhere.