Vicious Mustang Puts Down 1003whp!

[Che70velle]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Who else out there remembers when 450hp was usually considered barely streetable?

No kidding! My 02' Z06 had 405 flywheel hp, and I thought that I had me a monster...LOL!!

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Che70velle

No kidding! My 02' Z06 had 405 flywheel hp, and I thought that I had me a monster...LOL!!

Where's the like button!


LOL



FACT!


Or you bought a big ass crate motor! A 502!! with 502 hp!

[preston]

I'm making 650whp on low boost and it scares me every time I drive it - for the last 2 years ! I'm not "getting used to it" lol although yeah I don't drive it that much these days.

Yeah I remember when the new 4.6 cobra 4v came out and people were strapping on blowers and making 420whp out of the box and I remember thinking, "wow we have just gone too far now - what is the point of even building a hot rod if these guys can make SO MUCH power on a factory motor so easily ??"

Still remember the first time I saw a magazine car claiming 1000fhp, it was a TT 331 ci Saleen Mustang 5.0. I just thought wow that is stupid I bet that motor is a total hand grenade anyway. But I was intrigued by twin turbos in a street car....

Ramble on over to the forced induction section of the Corvette forum - now a days you're pretty much a chump if you're not making 1000whp. I don't know where those guys are doing all that roll racing to 150mph but I"m glad it doesn't seem to be anywhere around me !!

[Centerforce]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

AH --- MY BAD THEN -- but still --- you'd think with all that hardware it would have made more.

Originally Posted by rustomatic

They did say that the tune was "conservative." Surely they do not want to grenade the thing during the first round of glory tests . . .

That is correct; this is the initial tune on a brand new engine, so they were nowhere near pushing its limits. From what we understand, it will be going back after the initial press drives and break-in for another tuning session, and most likely more power.

You also have to keep in mind that on top of being tracked, it will also be pulling double-duty as a street car. We are sure that for a 7-figure price tag, the owner would prefer for it to run reliably for a long time, and not push the engine to the ragged edge.

Originally Posted by preston

I don't think you are gaining any efficiency by compound boosting it in this application, so the extra complexity is more for show than go - What I mean is I think they would have put up the same number with only turbos and the same boost. Heck, maybe more. Generally the compound boosting is to allow the positive displacement charger to fill in the bottom end before the turbos are full flow.

The shops goal in this build was to create a one-of-a-kind mustang that could be an extremely functional road race car. It made sense for the shop to do a compound-charged setup for a number of reasons.

It will work very well for road race driving where you need minimal lag and power throughout the RPM range for constant on/off throttle conditions. They definitely could have opted for a bigger blower and turbos to put down 1500+ if the goal was drag racing or just to be a dyno queen, but on top of already being downright terrifying to drive, the additional power is just not necessary for its purpose.

The other benefit of a setup like this was to showcase the shops craftsmanship, and do something no one else has before. With the bar at SEMA being set higher and higher every year, it's become almost impossible to stand apart from the hundreds of other resto-mods builds. A simple single-turbo or blower setup would not have allowed Timeless Kustoms to demonstrate what they are truly capable of. We think it goes perfectly with the over-the-top theme of this build!

[GregWeld]

The build is KRAZY KOOL....


Thanks for the explanation. I hope I wasn't sounding like an idiot questioning the power etc. I guess - which I've said here before - in this day and age with ginormous power seemingly easy to attain... I saw all the hardware and thought OH MY --- another 2,000 hp animal!

Will be fun to watch this be flogged and sorted out.

[Centerforce]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

The build is KRAZY KOOL....


Thanks for the explanation. I hope I wasn't sounding like an idiot questioning the power etc. I guess - which I've said here before - in this day and age with ginormous power seemingly easy to attain... I saw all the hardware and thought OH MY --- another 2,000 hp animal!

Will be fun to watch this be flogged and sorted out.

No not at all! We are just as excited to see it hit the track for some real action.

The car will be featured on Jay Leno's garage and a number of other auto media outlets, so be sure to keep an eye out!

[rustomatic]

I remember seeing the Chevelle (grand sport?) Timeless Kustoms built a few years back at the Laguna Seca USCA thing, and I was blown away by how ridiculously nice the thing was. The owner was flogging the snot out of it, and some of the builders of the car were there crewing for him--I even helped push the thing a time or two, as I believe they were still working out the fuel system. I couldn't stop gawking at the car, even though a Chevelle is not a car I ever think of. This was the athletic supermodel of Chevelles.

My point here is that Timeless Kustoms deserves big kudos for not only building crazy cars with ultra-high finish levels (at least to my unprofessional eyes), but also for being willing to stick their work on a track, like it's a car (as opposed to another SEMA concept), regardless of the (cubic) dollars and sweat behind the build. Here's hoping for a (video-captured) beating that consists of more than just a bunch of Ken Block-ian tire wastings . . .

[Steve Chryssos]

Sounds really nasty. I very much enjoyed checking this car out at SEMA.

[Vegas69]

Stunning, but a track car? I find that hard to believe.

[Sheck44]

Seriously awesome car ... 10,000 hours of work, WOW !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvAqEGbkx5E

Steve