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02-10-2005, 09:18 AM
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MaxHarvard.....for a '68 Camaro you are going to need the DS&E 3" drop rear leaf springs. The 2" drop springs will NOT work. Trust me on this. I have a '68 and with the rounded wheel lip profile, you HAVE to get the car down lower than a '69 where the rear lip profile is not rounded.
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Ummm why would i need a 3" drop in the back? that seems kinda rediculous for my car.
I'm only putting new springs in the front and lowering blocks in the back.
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02-10-2005, 09:30 AM
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It's not really a 3" drop. Just a name--cause 2" drop was already taken. If you are running a 26" or taller tire, you may prefer a 2" spring, but if your tires are in the 25" range, the three's help the tires fill the wheelwell. What are the specs on your rear tire?
Lowering blocks may serve as a temporary solution, but I'm pretty sure that you will need some crazy-ass blocks to get the rear down. And anything more than a 1" block can be dangerous and promote wheel hop.
Dangerous, he says? The stock design has the spring perches clamped directly to the shock plates. Space them out and the entire load is placed on the U-Bolts. DSE now makes a spacer kit that works with the lowering blocks which help.
So I'm not saying don't do it. Just check in with those who have "been there, done that" while you juggle lowering blocks to establish desired ride height. And plan on dropped leaf springs as a permanent solution.
Here's the mojo:
-Try to avoid using more than a 1" block.
-Buy only extruded aluminum blocks (not cheapo cast blocks which will crack while you are tightening the U-bolts or on the first test drive).
-Get new longer U-Bolts and hardware and trim as necessary after tightening.
-Tighten the U-bolts evenly and in stages (Duh)
-Throughout the process, think about what can and will happen if that rear gets away from the car (Very Bad!)
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. Better safe than sorry.
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Originally Posted by streetfytr68
It's not really a 3" drop. Just a name--cause 2" drop was already taken. If you are running a 26" or taller tire, you may prefer a 2" spring, but if your tires are in the 25" range, the three's help the tires fill the wheelwell. What are the specs on your rear tire?
Lowering blocks may serve as a temporary solution, but I'm pretty sure that you will need some crazy-ass blocks to get the rear down. And anything more than a 1" block can be dangerous and promote wheel hop.
Dangerous, he says? The stock design has the spring perches clamped directly to the shock plates. Space them out and the entire load is placed on the U-Bolts. DSE now makes a spacer kit that works with the lowering blocks which help.
So I'm not saying don't do it. Just check in with those who have "been there, done that" while you juggle lowering blocks to establish desired ride height. And plan on dropped leaf springs as a permanent solution.
Here's the mojo:
-Try to avoid using more than a 1" block.
-Buy only extruded aluminum blocks (not cheapo cast blocks which will crack while you are tightening the U-bolts or on the first test drive).
-Get new longer U-Bolts and hardware and trim as necessary after tightening.
-Tighten the U-bolts evenly and in stages (Duh)
-Throughout the process, think about what can and will happen if that rear gets away from the car (Very Bad!)
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. Better safe than sorry.
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I understand what your saying, but it bugged the hell out of me because i've posted my car 100 times on this site, and if anyone looked at the back, they'd know it doesnt need a 3" or even 2" lower in the back... I'm talking about the front! hence my question about "DROP SPINDLES"
Here's a pic to show you i dont need a 2" drop in back.
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02-10-2005, 11:19 AM
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you could esily do 2 inch in front, lowering coils, and 2 or 3 in back, this will bring you down so the tire is close to the 1/4 and fender lips, the springs on there now are probaly worn out and sagging a little anyway, thus you think you do not need that much drop
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02-10-2005, 11:21 AM
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you could esily do 2 inch in front, lowering coils, and 2 or 3 in back, this will bring you down so the tire is close to the 1/4 and fender lips, the springs on there now are probaly worn out and sagging a little anyway, thus you think you do not need that much drop
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The springs are brand new. You can still read the production number stamped on them from Year One.
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if i want to lower my car, do i need drop spindles too or can i use the stock ones with a lowered spring?
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Right then...I'll be sure read the entire thread next time as opposed to just the last post. I hear you barkin', Big Dog:
Use stock spindles with lowered coil springs. Avoid dropped spindles.
Edit: However, I will reiterate that a 2" drop leaf spring will probably not lower your car an entire 2 inches. It's just a name.
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Right then...I'll be sure read the entire thread next time as opposed to just the last post. I hear you barkin', Big Dog:
Use stock spindles with lowered coil springs. Avoid dropped spindles.
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hehe, no worries man, just kinda crappy trying to ask a question and i get a response about something unrelated, but thanks for the input
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02-10-2005, 12:02 PM
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well either way, your car could take 3 inch dse springs in back and 2 in front and still sit level or a slight rake to front, easily, period
call dse and get there sb springs and there 2 or 3 inch rear springs but on a 68 i would go 3, like steve says they say 3 inch drop but aren't, but there are enough guys around including steve to know what works, no matter what you have in for springs new or old, go this route for the pro touring look, leave it at that
or don't ask for opinions and get mad that your car does need need to be lowered 2 inches, we are saying use the 2 inch lowqering springs,we did not say it lowered it 2 inches, its just from seeing cars and guys doing it we know the 2 inch coils are the way to go, **** take your springs out and cut them to what you want, since it seems you know what you want
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well either way, your car could take 3 inch dse springs in back and 2 in front and still sit level or a slight rake to front, easily, period
call dse and get there sb springs and there 2 or 3 inch rear springs but on a 68 i would go 3, like steve says they say 3 inch drop but aren't, but there are enough guys around including steve to know what works, no matter what you have in for springs new or old, go this route for the pro touring look, leave it at that
or don't ask for opinions and get mad that your car does need need to be lowered 2 inches, we are saying use the 2 inch lowqering springs,we did not say it lowered it 2 inches, its just from seeing cars and guys doing it we know the 2 inch coils are the way to go, **** take your springs out and cut them to what you want, since it seems you know what you want
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Nice attitude when you didnt even answer my original question, you just went on a tirade of your own. Btw, next time use some punctuation.
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Easy boys. This is Lateral-g. We don't do that over here.
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