Imagine its World War ll &Your in the cockpit

[Roadrage David]

Originally Posted by tumper93

Funny you mention the ME 262, they weren't all that great but since the technology was brand new, if the war had lasted longer there is no telling what would have developed. My dad met the guy that flew the one back that is now in the Smithsonion Air and Space Museum. It was from a captured airfield if memory serves me right. I could spend a day telling of the people that were somebody in WWII that my dad has gotten to talk to and laugh with. Was a great thing growing up.

It ""was"" the best plain from wwII. bare none it outclased EVERY fighter of the day.infackt this plain made a end to the piston powerd fighter .. the only douwnside was that ""one"" Hitler wanted them to be Bombers ""two"" only in the last months it was convered to be a fighter and bij that time only rookys where flying them. they did sufer from durabilety in the engine departmend from witch is said they lasted only 9 hours, nevertheless the mustangs could only shoot them douwn bij take of and landing ore when teaming up on a ""rooky"" pilot that had 10 hours of flying time on him lureing him in a trap.......

[Yenkostyle]

Originally Posted by Roadrage David

It nevertheless the mustangs could only shoot them douwn bij take of and landing ore when teaming up on a ""rooky"" pilot that had 10 hours of flying time on him lureing him in a trap.......

Aww not quite true David: The mustang had one big advantage, The Me 262 was less maneuverable than the P-51 and other Allied pilots could catch up to a turning Me 262. This is history taught at Red Flag. Exploiting an aircrafts weakness and or a pilots inexperience is one of the fundamentals of dog fighting. Truthfully there is no apples to apples comparison with any two aircraft all have pros and cons.

But on the note of Superchargers & Carbs or fuel injection and Nos... I think the answer in what works best is a blending of the two: fuel injection and forced induction. If we are being theoretical then I think the winner would have been the side that chose this...Or perfected the jet first
again just my 2 cents worth.

[Roadrage David]

Originally Posted by Yenkostyle

This is history taught at Red Flag.

what do you meen by that..........and no the mustang was NOT the best fighter in WWII, but it was the most ""sucsesfull"" fighter witch is a diferend thing(but only when they started useing the Rollce royce Merlin spitfire engine). if the 262 had 6 more ore eurlyer months to operate as a fighter. the world would have been a diferend place today.......

[awr68]

David where are you located?

[Roadrage David]

Originally Posted by awr68

David where are you located?

Im from europe

[awr68]

Cool!!

I moved the thread as it's not car related...but a good topic though!!

[Yenkostyle]

David I am not trying to say you’re wrong in any respect... You make some real valid points and I am enjoying this discussion.

Red Flag is an advanced aerial combat training exercise hosted by the U.S. Air Force at Nellis AFB Nevada (Las Vegas). At no point did I say or am i saying the Mustang is the BEST. Most Successful? I think a few F4U Corsair guys from the Pacific might differ on that opinion as they enjoyed a 11:1 kill ratio over the Japanese. LOL

Again not an apples to apples comparison, but the ability of the pilots and experience level is a HUGE factor.

Please don't take this wrong, I am just making a friendly discussion, not trying to say any one opinion is wrong at all. This would be great in a bar over a few pints of beer!

[Roadrage David]

Originally Posted by Yenkostyle

David I am not trying to say you’re wrong in any respect... You make some real valid points and I am enjoying this discussion.

Red Flag is an advanced aerial combat training exercise hosted by the U.S. Air Force at Nellis AFB Nevada (Las Vegas). At no point did I say or am i saying the Mustang is the BEST. Most Successful? I think a few F4U Corsair guys from the Pacific might differ on that opinion as they enjoyed a 11:1 kill ratio over the Japanese. LOL

Again not an apples to apples comparison, but the ability of the pilots and experience level is a HUGE factor.

Please don't take this wrong, I am just making a friendly discussion, not trying to say any one opinion is wrong at all. This would be great in a bar over a few pints of beer!

No Problem i dig that , i like and love this type of sec ww discusions. im sure the pilots of the corsair had one of if not the best kill ratio , but they never fought inline engines messersmits and focker wulf fighters now did they lol..
the japanese zero and mitsubitsie fighters where mainly target practis plains( turkey shoot) compeard to the german engeneering marvels.. they(japenese) where very low on on calliber guns and had NO armer protection at all....... best radial plain must have been the focker wulf with the p47 thunderbold on sec place with the corsair tird, sins he never fought in the same league as the p47. haveing said that the p47 became a straffing fighter when the mustang took his place.....

[Spiffav8]

This is a great thread and not one I would expect to find on the site. The discussion of which aircraft is the best of WW2 strays from the original question of "The Planes are Messerschmidt's and Spitfires which one would you want to be in the cock pit of". Not flaming the fire here but I would choose my aircraft based on my enemy. Each has there advantages over others to be honest. Take the Zero for example. It was light and very maneuverable, but had no armor and light weight guns. Still it ruled the sky's for awhile.

I still say if I had to go into a fight against a Messerschmidt's I'd want a Mk16 Spitfire. That RR Griffin engine screamed and it had a clipped elliptical wing which is the best for all around performance.

[Roadrage David]

RR merlin engine you meen lol. wel stastistics hase shown that the me109(latest version) was the spitfire,s equal in the dogfights. you know who disirfs the real medal of houner during the battle of britan "" the hawker hurricane"" the spitfire always got the credit but 80% of the plains that fought the germans where the Hurrican. shows you that a less disired airplain, with the rights stuff in the cockpit can do wonders http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QWrYogVmPzU