What are the Lower and Upper Limites of PT?

[tyoneal]

Originally Posted by jannes_z-28

What Pro Touring is?

Well to sum it up: An old car preferably form the Muscle Car era with modern drivetrain, brakes and suspension. Add to that interior comfort with low noise and A/C.

You could also say that PT is the Hot Rodding of today.

The definition is wide, for some just a '72 Camaro with 18" wheels is Pro Touring. I would not agree on that.


Jan

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Jan:

So not really a Street legal Race Car, but a old Car with a Modern Drivetrain, and Modern Conveniences.

So Actual hard core Performance isn't really necessary, right?

Just Clarifying your statement.

Ty

[tyoneal]

To All:

So to get to the heart of things,

"A Pro Touring Car, is one that has been modified to improve on the overall performance of it's original design capabilities. These improvements must Focus specifically in the area of it's Road Holding ability in ALL situations. (i.e. Suspension Upgrades)"

Specific Attributes:

-Better handling agility,

-improved Power output

-increased Braking ability

-and enhanced Steering precision

These four areas of enhancement, (Listed Above) are ALL necessary in one form or another, to be considered a true, "Pro Touring", car.

While these attributes are all necessary for this designation, the degree in which these are accomplished is very broad.

A true "Pro Touring" car can range from Minor/Minimum improvements to an all out Road Racing Car, provided that it is still legal to be driven on Public Streets.

Examples of these improvements include:

Minor Improvements can include (Higher performance tires, shocks, urethane bushings, Cold air intake, performance exhaust etc.)

Major Improvements can include (Complete Racing Suspension and Chassis, sway bars, multi adjustable shocks, Rack and Pinion Steering, AeroDynamic improvements, Power Adders, Roll Cages, Sub frame Connectors, Driver Harnesses, Fire extinguishing systems, etc.)

As long as these four basic qualifications have been met, "Pro Touring", can Technically beused to describe your car style or type.

Year, Make or Model, is Unimportant.

Paint Schemes and Colors are Unimportant.

How someone addresses these four necessary improvements is Unimportant.
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Does this Sum the Subject up Correctly and Thoroughly?

I look forward to your opinions.

Thanks,

Ty

[chicane]

Originally Posted by tyoneal

So a "Street Fighter" and a "Pro Touring" car are basically the same thing?

Is this right?

Well... not exactly.

Although they both get ques from the same place and share the same aspects concerning vehicle performance, a Street Fighter is more of a bare bones, explicitly non bling ride that isnt chalk full of stereo equipment, interrior and other seemingly useless creature comforts. Where-as Pro-Touring is more fully optioned and loaded with all the amenities.

I guess my opinion may be somewhat biased, as I was building cars like we are questioning a decade before the terms "Street Fighter" and "Pro-Touring" were ever coined.

[CraigMorrison]

Originally Posted by tyoneal

Hello:

Is there an, "Official", definition of Pro-Touring, and what are it's limits from one extreme to the other?

I know this is a touchy subject for some, but where does Pro Touring differ from, "Hot Rod", "Street Rod", "Street Fighter", "Street Legal Race Car" etc.?

Does Pro Touring have a minimum amount of enhancements necessary for the term to apply?

Is a factory fresh Corvette Technically also a Pro Touring Car?

Does Pro Touring have an upper limit on performance enhancements?

Does Pro Touring have a Definition limited my Make, Model or year, a foreign or domestic Vehicle?

Can a Pro Touring Car Be Over the Top so much that it becomes something different?

Is there a certain look a Pro Touring Car has to have?

Many of the "Better" Pro Touring Cars are very finished and handsome on the inside, and many have Power window lifts power truck releases along with Many other "Bells and Whistles". Do these Add to the Pro Touring look and Style, Detract from the Pro Touring look and style, or have no impact one way or the other?

What types of materials are usually NOT found in bulk on a Pro Touring car? (Chrome, Billet, Bling)

I am interested in your opinions and thoughts?

Thanks, I look forward to your replies.

Ty O'Neal

-No
-Pretty much the same thing- guys tinkering with cars to make them better
-Yes
-No - New Corvette = sports car
-No
-No
-Yes
-Yes
-No impact but can be OTT
-Gold plating

Steve said it best- (to paraphrase) if it stops, steers and performs better than stock it's a pro touring car.

[jannes_z-28]

Originally Posted by tyoneal

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Jan:

So not really a Street legal Race Car, but a old Car with a Modern Drivetrain, and Modern Conveniences.

So Actual hard core Performance isn't really necessary, right?

Just Clarifying your statement.

Ty

Well it depends on how wide this definition should be.

I think a race car is a race car. If it is streetable it is still a race car.

Yes hard core performance but it doesn't necessary means 1200 hp twin turbo as a mandatory requirement.

I still think it means a car from the Muscle Car Era even though a newer car could count as to be built in Pro Touring Style, but that also mean that a lot of Eurotrash and Riceburners could qualify as Pro touring cars.

Over ten years ago I got to think that a '69 Camaro would look great lowered and with 17" inch wheels, low profile tires and big brakes. Like a lot of hot european cars looked then and still does.

I decided that I wanted to build a car like that, it took me a few years before I could make that come true. In 1999, or was it 2000, I bought a copy of Chevy HiPerf because it had a cool looking yellow Camaro in the frontpage. It was Kyle and Staceys car and reading the article I discovered that someone else have had the same thoughts that I had. And they called the style Pro Touring!

Jan

[steemin]

Does it have to be a 69 Camaro to be PT?
J/K and rattling cages.
I got started in this little adventure looking for a 1st gen Camaro.
Scott

[deuce_454]

Originally Posted by steemin

Does it have to be a 69 Camaro to be PT?
J/K and rattling cages.
I got started in this little adventure looking for a 1st gen Camaro.
Scott

i am actually a bigger fan of all the non-camaros, libbys fairlane and many of the early 60íes cars being built here... but it still say that unless you drive it, it´s not a pro-touring car...