The Ultimate Front Subframe Solution? - Page 2 - Lateral-g Forums

TravisB · #11 11-22-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wiedemab

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but here is what DSE has posted on their site.

thanks brandon that is the first I have seen of that....

mazspeed · #12 11-22-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454

maz, i relize that, i said using stock replacment arms, dse,and others, of course you can run a 315 with a certain designed control arm.
at least ty is doing research rather then just going out and buying dse or the most high dollar chassis.
goodluck ty
jake

Sorry Jake, I misread it.

68protouring454 · #13 11-22-2007, 05:30 PM

also on the c.a.r.s set up, i always have read that it is the ultimate however they blamed shock tuning for its poor performance in the phr testings with the orange car, however, i assume they have sold a few, i am not sure why there are tuning issues since there chassis has been available for a long time, and been in more then a few cars??

68protouring454 · #14 11-22-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms

Well, first of, I love ya like a brother Ty, but your over thinking this my friend! I will bet there is little chance you will ever see the outer limits of any good subframe / Lateral Dynamics combo, so it is all pencil pushing.

The DSE and Art morrison are both proven perfromaer in real world seat of the pants testing, but as travis said the numbers are not readly available. But we do not race numbers anyway.

SpeedTech Subframe does what you are asking for, uses stock type components. And Blake is going to publish the numbers.

But my guess is you will be thrilled with whichever frame you choose, as long as you avoid the obvious "street rodder frames" out there

frank sounds good, however why has he not posted the numbers? the frames are available for sale correct?
i bet he does not have them yet.
jake

ProdigyCustoms · #15 11-22-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454

frank sounds good, however why has he not posted the numbers?
jake

They absolutly will post the numbers when they are ready to go to market. But are not going full bore yet until some final details are worked through. I give them a lot of credit for holding off until it is exactly where they want it. We are also doing R and D at our end fine tuning the one in EmptyNest. I am not going to over step my boundries and post any numbers, but I can tell you from personal measurements the Camber gain is excellet, the bump steer is acceptable, and it has 295s on it right now with full lock to lock turning. Parsons and I are going to be working out some details after the PRI show in a couple weeks.

mazspeed · #16 11-22-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454

also on the c.a.r.s set up, i always have read that it is the ultimate however they blamed shock tuning for its poor performance in the phr testings with the orange car, however, i assume they have sold a few, i am not sure why there are tuning issues since there chassis has been available for a long time, and been in more then a few cars??

The Orange car which is my buddy's car has a 572 heavy big block in it, and you have to have tuning time to get it to handle correctly. The car is a 54f 46r distribution due to the big engined car. The great thing about that and all chassis from CAR is that they were able to tune the car afterwards. They just got that car finished without testing the car before going to the PHR test grounds. They figured out they needed more spring, and more bar and a few other minor adjustments to make it right, and they didn't have time before hand. Also the car blew the clutch in 5th gear down the 1/4 mile during that same test while posting a 130+ trap. This comes from not being able to have time to sort that car out. Now that car is a 1g car able to run low 10's high 9's in the quarter on street tires. It's an awesome car. Once they tune the chassis for each car, it's the best one you can have due to the fact that you can tune everything, that's one reason why they insist on doing the work themselves.

tyoneal · #17 11-22-2007, 07:59 PM

To All:

Before I start addressing your advise, input, suggestions etc. let me first say, "Thanks", for taking the time to write.

The input from everyone is what makes this site so great.

Just for future information, I am going to enroll in a series of driving lessons so I can raise my level of driving and knowledge as high as possible. I agree that lessons should always be a central part of appreciating any device and learning how to be safe when doing it. (As I mentioned before, I used to Shoot competitively in, "Action", pistol matches, and 3-gun matches. Lessons were a central part of being competent if you plan to advance and place in your particular class.

All this being said, I'll start answering your post.

Thanks again,

Ty O'Neal

68protouring454 · #18 11-22-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed

The Orange car which is my buddy's car has a 572 heavy big block in it, and you have to have tuning time to get it to handle correctly. The car is a 54f 46r distribution due to the big engined car. The great thing about that and all chassis from CAR is that they were able to tune the car afterwards. They just got that car finished without testing the car before going to the PHR test grounds. They figured out they needed more spring, and more bar and a few other minor adjustments to make it right, and they didn't have time before hand. Also the car blew the clutch in 5th gear down the 1/4 mile during that same test while posting a 130+ trap. This comes from not being able to have time to sort that car out. Now that car is a 1g car able to run low 10's high 9's in the quarter on street tires. It's an awesome car. Once they tune the chassis for each car, it's the best one you can have due to the fact that you can tune everything, that's one reason why they insist on doing the work themselves.

cool.

68protouring454 · #19 11-22-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms

They absolutly will post the numbers when they are ready to go to market. But are not going full bore yet until some final details are worked through. I give them a lot of credit for holding off until it is exactly where they want it. We are also doing R and D at our end fine tuning the one in EmptyNest. I am not going to over step my boundries and post any numbers, but I can tell you from personal measurements the Camber gain is excellet, the bump steer is acceptable, and it has 295s on it right now with full lock to lock turning. Parsons and I are going to be working out some details after the PRI show in a couple weeks.

great, glad there doing it right.

ProdigyCustoms · #20 11-22-2007, 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=mazspeed] Also the car blew the clutch in 5th gear down the 1/4 mile during that same test while posting a 130+ trap. QUOTE]

Holy smokes what rear gear has that thing got in it to use 5th gear at the dragstrip! Our Chevelle runs 130MPH in 4th gear going through at 6600RPM with a 3.73. That thing must leave like a monster! I bet it is a blast to drive!