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Old 04-17-2008, 04:53 PM
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I have wondered the same as well. What happened to Hal Baer's 69 and what ever happened to Hot Rod's project "Mustang Magic" back in the 70's?

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('65 Fastback in the works...)
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:19 PM
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They are around..

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This is going out on a limb for me but this stang is the sweetest Stang I have ever layed eyes on!
Im not a ford guy " except old hot rods with chevy engines"
and have never been a mustang fan but Damnnnn this is so me theres alot of cars that yo uwill see and say thats nice but id change this and maybe that not this stang wow..... well maybe if it had a Chevy motor lol
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:47 PM
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Do you happen to know anyone who bought a UP shell? I happen to know 3 people that bought shells at the auction,just to get them home and find out they must start completely over.And these shells weren't your 5000.00 shell,these shells ranged anywhere from 15 to 23k.

As for prison labor not building the building the cars, your wrong.They did every part of the bodywork except for painting.Were some cars built at the facility,yes,were all built there,no. Would you like me to post a link for that so you can see with your own eyes? Hasty isn't your brother in law by chance?

As for drag racing my car,where'd you come up with that.I never said it was a drag car.This car is slated for a show/road race car.

So,you build the car the way you like it and I'll build mine the way I like it.
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I think you guys need to take your disagreement to pm's. I'd sure hate to see this thread get locked.
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I think you guys need to take your disagreement to pm's. I'd sure hate to see this thread get locked.

Yeah... I see this one's making new friends on all the boards. Maybe its a late model thing ??

Or is it Texas... ??

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Old 04-18-2008, 08:23 PM
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Do you happen to know anyone who bought a UP shell? I happen to know 3 people that bought shells at the auction,just to get them home and find out they must start completely over.And these shells weren't your 5000.00 shell,these shells ranged anywhere from 15 to 23k.

As for prison labor not building the building the cars, your wrong.They did every part of the bodywork except for painting.Were some cars built at the facility,yes,were all built there,no. Would you like me to post a link for that so you can see with your own eyes? Hasty isn't your brother in law by chance?

As for drag racing my car,where'd you come up with that.I never said it was a drag car.This car is slated for a show/road race car.

So,you build the car the way you like it and I'll build mine the way I like it.
not to enter someoneelses argument uninvited ,but the people you know, who obviosly know so much. shouldent have bid so much on a 5000$ CAR . ive been to plenty of auctions its always buyer beware esp. at a bankrupcy auction.(thats just my opin.)
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:52 AM
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Do you happen to know anyone who bought a UP shell? I happen to know 3 people that bought shells at the auction,just to get them home and find out they must start completely over.And these shells weren't your 5000.00 shell,these shells ranged anywhere from 15 to 23k.

As for prison labor not building the building the cars, your wrong.They did every part of the bodywork except for painting.Were some cars built at the facility,yes,were all built there,no. Would you like me to post a link for that so you can see with your own eyes? Hasty isn't your brother in law by chance?

As for drag racing my car,where'd you come up with that.I never said it was a drag car.This car is slated for a show/road race car.

So,you build the car the way you like it and I'll build mine the way I like it.
The reason im arguing is everything hes saying is simply not true based on what i actualy saw with my own eyes vs what was posted all over the internet and the TV and his 8 gallons of filler coment was a exact qoute from the bs news story that was done.


I'm seeing things that just didnt happen being posted and hes saying numbers that well as someone who was there with the auction and bid on and bought a lot of stuff I can say aren't correct so it makes me wonder just how much of what hes saying he actualy knows or was just internet and tv hearsay.

for example he says he knows some one who paid 23 k for a shell. ? well The most expensive shell there sold for 19.2 k here is the auction link
http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?rosen/704

here is a few links to the average price for one of the painted shells was around 14 to 15 k .. wich is a STEAL as a dynacorn body cost that much and you get no body panels or paint etc and the shells came with painted doors hoods trunks and the body kit installed and painted.


http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?rosen/727

http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?rosen/745

heres a nice shell that would have been good to start with its already been media blasted and had every place it was rusted replaced with new panels

http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?rosen/724

deon't mind the surface rust showing thas because the stupid bankrupcy court just let these already blasted shells sit out side for months and even those that were completely primered already needed some work to remove surface rust that was showing.

Here is a car half done i dont see "8 gallons of filler" here just what prety much would be normal for a fender flare setup

http://www.rosensystems.com/maxanet/...unique0737.jpg


here is the 71 cuda shell we bought for 6800 that we sold on ebay for 12.5 k

here is the auction from the UP
http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?rosen/794

here is the ebay auction with tons of pics showing the real condition of the car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...N%27T.m317.lVI

either way the original question was it would seem to me you would see more but you just dont see nearly as many.

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Old 04-19-2008, 12:24 PM
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It's not a Texas thing,basically it's a know it all thing.
Did you notice him blast me when I said I'm installing an IRS in my 67Mustang.Did you also catch he said my halfshafts wont handel the power my engine will put out.He said all this without knowning what type of axels I'll be using.It really comes down to this,a know it all thing.

He might be schooled on late model Mustangs but I'm under the impression he knows very little about body work and less about the quailty of UP builds.It's a documented fact that even the very early elanors had issues with body cracking.Pull up "fix Eleanor" and read about it yourself.

And your wrong again,the news clips that you refer to CLEARLY says 13 gallons of puddy,not 8. I quouted 8 gallons of puddy as a direct quote from someone from North Carolina whos on a Mustang board that I ferquent.As a matter of fact the car he bought looked ok at the beginning.After trailering his car home chunks of filler were falling off the body. Another guy bought one in the very early stages of the build.His had no filler,he was lucky.But it had other quailty issues.

Other people who have bought cars from the auction also report similar issues.One guy in particular bought the SS version (supersnake which was 1 of 75) only to find panels welded and over lapping each other with yes,8 gallons of puddy to cover it up.So perhaps in your mind there was no quality issues.

He also doesn't beleive Texas state prioners were building these car.I can only assume that the prioners that were inteview about the builds were imposters.It's very easy to find this out by a Goggle search.Try it.None of this information that I cited in prior posts came from any new source other than the prioner thing.All the information I provided was directly from people who bought a UP auction car and discovered the quailty of the build once the car got home.

BTW,I only came on this board about a week ago to get some info on HOK paint that i'll be using on my car.Those good people that responed to my questions were very nice,polite and helpful.

So in essence,I'm out.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:20 PM
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i mean lets face it based on shear numbers there is far far more mustangs out there to start with for a restomod

and its alot cheaper to get one.


yet you see probly 20 camaros for each mustang that you see restomoded

I have often wondered the same thing, and I have a theory that may or may not hold water. I have been going to T-Bird and Mustang shows since I was about 5, and there have always been rows and rows of restored Mustangs. It seems to me that the restoration and "let's keep it stock for the value" thing hit those cars before the g-machine style came about. You can go to Mustang Round-up in Washington and see literally hundreds of stock, restored, boring (opinion, sorry!) Mustangs. More plain stockers than you will ever see (again, opinion, not based on anything other than a hunch) at a Chevy show. The Camaros had a racier image from the word go, and seem to have been modified more readily than Mustangs. They built the millionth Mustang by the middle of '66, so there are plenty out there, but it seems to me that the overwhelming majority of nice ones are restored, or very mildly modified.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:06 PM
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Default ya im working on mine

ya ill be making more progress with mine soon

im most likely ditching the gt-500 motor for a 05-06 viper v-10 with a custom turbo kit.

Since i can get a complete viper engine and t-56 for less then a gt-500 motor alone

nothing crazy power wise just around 700 rwhp maybee 10-12 pounds of boost.

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