I feel so violated!

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by mazspeed

Thieves, rapist, and child molesters should be shot in the head and left bleeding in the moonlight.

X2! No room for any POS like this. Sorry to hear of your this. They will hopefully get theirs in the end - and not by the law. That as always - would be to easy on them.

Brent

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Originally Posted by mazspeed

Texas justice.

http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/19261309.html

http://wjz.com/national/Joe.Horn.burglars.2.761019.html

I like it!

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by RECOVERY ROOM

I like it!

Should be mandated country wide.

[syborg tt]

I am so sorry to here. With so many people out of work the crime rate is climbing. This is the first year that I'm not traveling with my family over the holiday's. I'm just to afraid to leave the house empty.

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

With so many people out of work the crime rate is climbing. This is the first year that I'm not traveling with my family over the holiday's. I'm just to afraid to leave the house empty.

I was just talking to a co-worker about this yesterday. I think we are going to see some real desparate times as the holiday nears. Not to mention suicide rate. Seems to always go up around holiday season with depression and all - going to be worse with the economy the way it is unfortunately. Hopefully it will not be the case.

Didn't mean to hi jack your thread......

[andrewmp6]

That sucks i had my house broke in to a month ago they met one pissed off great dane they didn't take anything or hurt my dog thank god.I can tell you a big fire proof safe that's bolted down is worth every penny.I'm not sure but check with your home owners see if they cover any of it.

[syborg tt]

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

That sucks i had my house broke in to a month ago they met one pissed off great dane they didn't take anything or hurt my dog thank god.I can tell you a big fire proof safe that's bolted down is worth every penny.I'm not sure but check with your home owners see if they cover any of it.

Safe's are not a good investment unless your trying to keep your wife and kids away from your guns or money.

My fathers neighbor was robbed about 2 years ago and they used a metal detector to locate all of the hidden safes in the house. They also found the bigger safe in his home and flipped it on it's back and opened it. Obviously they new what they were doing because then were able to get into all 3 of his safes.

So what is the solution - it's pretty easy. Put a couple fake air return vents in your walls and hang them on drywall screws. Make sure you glue the original screws on the front of the vents so it looks like a real vent.

[Blown353]

Ugh, that sucks. And I agree 100%-- given the current economic times and unemployment rates this sort of thing will only happen more often.

Originally Posted by syborg tt

Safe's are not a good investment unless your trying to keep your wife and kids away from your guns or money.

My fathers neighbor was robbed about 2 years ago and they used a metal detector to locate all of the hidden safes in the house. They also found the bigger safe in his home and flipped it on it's back and opened it. Obviously they new what they were doing because then were able to get into all 3 of his safes.

There is a big difference between what most people call a "safe" which is actually just an RSC (residential security container, a glorified sheetmetal box) and a TL-rated burglary resistant & rated safe.

99% of the people out there buy a "safe" (usually rated RSC or not rated at all) and expect it to be their end all, be all security solution-- that simply isn't the case. If they're spending under $4000 or so it's probably not going to be a "safe" and rather a RSC-rated storage container and they also probably have false exaggerated hopes of their newly acquired security.

Flipping an RSC onto the back makes it much easier to pry the doorframe open or beat on the corners with a sledgehammer to pop the welds-- I take it from your description that it wasn't properly anchored to the floor.

Safes buy you time-- that's all. The more you spend, the more time you get before it can be opened. Given enough time and tools you can get into anything. Buying a more expensive TL-rated safe just means more layers of security, thicker metal, a locking mechanism that can't be easily pushed open, etc, and it's harder to get into and will take more time. The more expensive TL-rated safes are quite effective at resisting "smash and grab" type of burglaries but against a experienced pro who has lots of time (or a guy who doesn't care about the contents and uses a torch or lance, in which case your contents will likely be ruined by the time he gets in) your stuff will still be gone.

[syborg tt]

I agree with you a safe just buy's you time. These guy's were professionals and came prepared to Cut open the safe. From memory this was a 500lb safe that I am certain the owner spent a boat load of money on. His biggest mistake was the fact that he put it in plane view of the front of his house.

Originally Posted by Blown353

Ugh, that sucks. And I agree 100%-- given the current economic times and unemployment rates this sort of thing will only happen more often.



There is a big difference between what most people call a "safe" which is actually just an RSC (residential security container, a glorified sheetmetal box) and a TL-rated burglary resistant & rated safe.

99% of the people out there buy a "safe" (usually rated RSC or not rated at all) and expect it to be their end all, be all security solution-- that simply isn't the case. If they're spending under $4000 or so it's probably not going to be a "safe" and rather a RSC-rated storage container and they also probably have false exaggerated hopes of their newly acquired security.

Flipping an RSC onto the back makes it much easier to pry the doorframe open or beat on the corners with a sledgehammer to pop the welds-- I take it from your description that it wasn't properly anchored to the floor.

Safes buy you time-- that's all. The more you spend, the more time you get before it can be opened. Given enough time and tools you can get into anything. Buying a more expensive TL-rated safe just means more layers of security, thicker metal, a locking mechanism that can't be easily pushed open, etc, and it's harder to get into and will take more time. The more expensive TL-rated safes are quite effective at resisting "smash and grab" type of burglaries but against a experienced pro who has lots of time (or a guy who doesn't care about the contents and uses a torch or lance, in which case your contents will likely be ruined by the time he gets in) your stuff will still be gone.

[Blown353]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

I agree with you a safe just buy's you time. These guy's were professionals and came prepared to Cut open the safe. From memory this was a 500lb safe that I am certain the owner spent a boat load of money on. His biggest mistake was the fact that he put it in plane view of the front of his house.

Ouch, he made one of the biggest mistakes you can make... if they can see it before they're even in the house, they can come back when prepared rather than finding it during the burglary and being caught unprepared!

And 500# is very light for a true TL rated burglar resistant safe unless it was small, like 2' x 2' x 2' or so.