The best, biggest, most reliable brake system for 70 Camaro?

[SR71]

and it takes ALOT of wheel pad to clear the c6 z06 brakes. my wheels have 1.5" front and 1" rear wheel pads and it isn't enough....or I would be using them.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

willwood is not a durable solution)

That simply is not true. We dailey drive Wilwood equiped cars for years now. In Florida it rains almost everyday on the way home, it is dusty as hell other days. We have not hasd a single caliper failure, not one and have been running them for 5 and 6 years now.

[SS1156]

I do like the C5 Z51 brakes. I had C5 Z06 brakes on my 96 SS and it stopped great. I guess I really need to put function over image. I will admit that the Baer 6 piston brakes up front and the T4's out back in the Arizona Copper would look simply sick, but I think I would really need to hit the lotto to be able to afford that package. I think the C5 Z06 2 piston PBR calipers were good enough to stop a 405hp 3200# Corvette, it should be good enough for a daily driven 3200# mild street Camaro. What do you guys think? I'm not sure what to run out back? Does anyone make a 2 piston caliper rear setup?

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

bear, kore3 or touring classics all use PBR based calipers.. oem design and roadworthy.. willwood and other race bread brakes are great for show and limited use cars, but dont have dustboots etc... ( i dont care how any people chime in and flame me with how they work great on their pt cars.. willwood is not a durable solution)

my vote is with one of the above 3 first (i have touring classics front and bear rear) ... brembo also have some big stuff for continuous road use.. but are mucho dinerro and need custom bracketry

I totally, absolutely, 100% agree with this statement, especially about Wilwoods. Not bashing, but Wilwoods are not all that. Now Baer on the other hand is a different story. I 've had both and know from personal experience. I was about to explode after having Wilwoods on my truck for 6 months.

[deuce_454]

Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms

That simply is not true. We dailey drive Wilwood equiped cars for years now. In Florida it rains almost everyday on the way home, it is dusty as hell other days. We have not hasd a single caliper failure, not one and have been running them for 5 and 6 years now.

like i said.. willwoods are great, and somone will say thet work great on their pt "daily driver"... but that doesnt mean they have dustboots.. and i have replaced willwood dynalites (with BMW 325 e36 calipers that oddly enough fit dynalite2's bolt pattern ?!? ) because of stuck pistons on a daily driven street rod...



but then again we have more crappy climate than florida, and the car in mention got 15.000 miles per year .. and we salt our roads here in denmark...

[OLDFLM]

Originally Posted by SS1156

I do like the C5 Z51 brakes. I had C5 Z06 brakes on my 96 SS and it stopped great. I guess I really need to put function over image. I will admit that the Baer 6 piston brakes up front and the T4's out back in the Arizona Copper would look simply sick, but I think I would really need to hit the lotto to be able to afford that package. I think the C5 Z06 2 piston PBR calipers were good enough to stop a 405hp 3200# Corvette, it should be good enough for a daily driven 3200# mild street Camaro. What do you guys think? I'm not sure what to run out back? Does anyone make a 2 piston caliper rear setup?

Call Tobin at KORE3 already!

[dmc69]

KOre3

[Apogee]

Thanks for the props guys. The great thing about brakes is that there is no shortage of options, so you should be able to find something the fits your performance needs within your budget. The C5/C6(Z51/Z06) brakes are great options for the money and are extremely well supported by the aftermarket in terms of pads and rotors.

While I undestand the desire for larger rear calipers from an aesthetics point of view, the less unsprung weight you hang on your rear axle the better. If size really is the most important thing to you, then focus on making your rear axle as rigid as possible and run the C6 Z06 4-piston calipers...they're big and functional and will maintain a good balance with C5/C6(Z51/Z06) fronts. Like any fixed caliper though, pad knockback should be taken into consideration depending on the rest of the system.

Tobin
KORE3

[JKnight]

I think the knockback issue is one that should be strongly considered for most of the cars here. I know that in going with a C5/C6 based setup, you may be leaving some margin of braking ability on the table (I wonder how much really) but as an amatuer driver not having to pump up my brakes for them to work every time I exit a corner is a big plus for me. It frees up some time to worry about other things. Of course, if the car will never see track time or serious canyon carving, maybe this is a non-issue.

Put it this way, I still have not come close to reaching the limits of my Baer C6/Kore3 C5 Z06 system on the street. When I get to the track, we'll see, but I'm guessing it will be tires, driver or suspension tuning (or any number of other factors) that falls short before the brakes do.

[Wilwood Tech]

Normally we don't get involved in these kind of discussions because there are so many points of view based on a combination of science, tribal knowledge and general folklore. When it comes to dust boots, there are strong opinions on both sides of the issue. There is no doubt that the early cast iron calipers did benefit from dust boots; however, the new aluminum calipers with stainless steel pistons and square cut piston rings function very well and are as resistant to contamination as their dust boot counter parts. We have been in business for 33 years and have sold thousands of calipers and have never had one returned because it was contaminated as a result of no dust boots. We do manufacture dust boot specific calipers because some of our customers demand it; however, there are many excellent reasons why we don't dust boot all of our calipers and if you call our Tech Department we will be glad to discuss them with you. We are a very large and successful company and we pride ourselves on manufacturing the best performing and most durable calipers on the market. You can be sure that if we believed there was any reason to dust boot all of our calipers, we would.