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Old 09-23-2010, 01:55 PM
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Thanks for the PPG code. Spies Hecker is out of my budget for this car. This is just a driver I am putting together to sell.
DBC9700 is also a fac pac
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i used to use duponts 99k then switched to ppg and now use the dbc9700. i will be perfectly honest with you. i paint all day long for a dealership and anytime a black car comes(non metallic) in, i paint the entire panel with 9700 off of the car and dont blend. i have NEVER had a "match" complaint. EVER. IMHO black is black.. just make sure you get full coverage and use a nice high luster clear.. i think the key for black is to use a qualitly clear.
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i used to use duponts 99k then switched to ppg and now use the dbc9700. i will be perfectly honest with you. i paint all day long for a dealership and anytime a black car comes(non metallic) in, i paint the entire panel with 9700 off of the car and dont blend. i have NEVER had a "match" complaint. EVER. IMHO black is black.. just make sure you get full coverage and use a nice high luster clear.. i think the key for black is to use a qualitly clear.
I couldn't' agree less. I had a 2001 Corvette that had a LR quarter replaced and painted by the dealer. That panel always had a brown tint where the rest of the car had a blue tint. I didn't notice unitl after I bought it and saw it in the right light. Always erked me. Once you notice.....
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yeah ive noticed a brown hue before, then i applied to more coats of black... its all about coverage. i guess black is black is too bold of a statement for some but at the end of the day it has never failed me personally (besides omni, its definately brown!! lol)... not trying to start an arguement or anything.
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Not sure of the code (DCC9000 comes to mind) - but we've had very good success with PPG's single stage acrylic urethyne paint - CONCEPT is the name of the line. A little trick we've learned is to mix in Clear with the paint; it allows to flow out better and makes for less Orange Peel, also, when color sanding the characteristics of the clear make for an easy wet/sand polish process.

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i used to use duponts 99k then switched to ppg and now use the dbc9700. i will be perfectly honest with you. i paint all day long for a dealership and anytime a black car comes(non metallic) in, i paint the entire panel with 9700 off of the car and dont blend. i have NEVER had a "match" complaint. EVER. IMHO black is black.. just make sure you get full coverage and use a nice high luster clear.. i think the key for black is to use a qualitly clear.
for clear we use 2021. stuff is awesome
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We use 2021 as well. By far my favorite clear
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http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/pr...?product=FA689

sherwin williams has a very nice black single stage and its pretty cheap
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musclerodz,
Thanks for the PPG code. Spies Hecker is out of my budget for this car. This is just a driver I am putting together to sell.
Have you checked on the cost? What does the PPG run a gallon? The Spies black is $232 a gallon. I just painted a GTO this color last month.
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Black is most currently not Black, DBC 9700 and 9300 both have variants, not to mention all the other black formulas out there that all have the own variants.

DBC 9700 prime = DMD1683 straight out of the can. That would be my choice.
I just painted my 69 Camaro with DMD1683 and even though the color is the same, it is water compared to DBC9700 factory pak. I had to shoot it with almost no reducer where DBC9700 requires about 75%. Not to mention same price.
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