How much HP is needed

[radrambler]

Originally Posted by coolwelder62

What is the opinion of how much horse power is needed to for the ultimate PT car.

I dont know but maybe John Parsons/Prodigy can tell you because they have stated they are building the ultimate Pt camaro...

Tom

[out2kayak]

Isn't HP like money? When you have a certain amount, you want to have more?

[Track Junky]

I based my opinion on a car that Scott would be driving and we all know how Scott will be useing his car. On the same note, I think anything over 700 is over kill.

If we were to answer this question as a general hp range for all pt cars I still think 600 to 650 range is a fair number to throw out there.

[Sieg]

Todd's car is probably around 5.3 lbs per crankshaft hp, mine is currently 8.7 lbs...........so if my car looses 1,300 lbs we're even and I'll save $4K on brakes, or if I slip 2250 lbs in his trunk I think I can take him as is.

[MODO Innovations]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I'd take the better driver, less weight, and balanced chassis over the hp anyday. Of course that's within reason. I have 666hp/641ftlbs and find it very managable everywhere except getting out of the hole. Of course I'm pretty used to it after 5000 miles and over a dozen races. Finch is making 600/600 approx and he won RTTC. Speedtech killed it on the road course and has approx 500. Can't say it was a huge hp track, however. Then you have Stielow that can drive and has huge power. The more power you saddle up, the better shoe you better be. All this is Road Racing only. HP doesn't mean much in Autocross and even teh shorter speed stop challenges.

I do agree with Rich. You better watch yourself in how radical you get with your combination. A great race car makes a miserable street car with iffy reliablility. It's a balancing act. One guy will argue his race car is a great street car. Everyone has different ideals and tolerance.

I think these are all very good points.

I saw an 80K mile stock LS1/T56 combo in a 69 Camaro stay within a 2/10's of Finch at TX to finish 2nd in the Non-Vendor Class. The car weighed about 3150 lbs. The front suspension was fabbed on Scott's jig and the rear was Scott's. The driver (Kevin-millertime179) was a hell of a wheel man. Which one was it? I think it was a combo of all three. Who knows what would have happened if there would have been an extra 100 hp under the hood.

[Romulus]

The correct answer is "More."

But in the real world....see previous post.

[Flash68]

Since you asked for the ultimate car with no mention of driver skill, it's gotta be a minimum of 600 hp, probably more, and that assumes a very well set up car.

And that is probably not gonna get it done on a longer track setup (road course) or possibly even one of the longer road-course style autoX courses that pop up.

If you pinned me to a # I'd say 700.

[coolwelder62]

Thank's for the good info. What are sub frame conector's and what are they used for.We haven't used them before.The only time I will be driving the car is on and off the trailer.I think my son Kevin will see most of the seat time since he is the one with the SCCA GT1 license.

[Mach2]

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by coolwelder62

Thank's for the good info. What are sub frame conector's and what are they used for.We haven't used them before.

I knew that hp question was odd coming from you Dont you have better things to do aside from stirring the pot