I knew I liked Adam Carolla for some reason.. His take on the OWS Generation. LOL

[NOPANTS68]

Yep that's my boy. Been listening to him for 10 years. Not exactly words to live by, but it's nice to see at least one celebrity in LA with common sense. See his stand up live if you get a chance as it's a much funnier version of what's been posted here. Way to go Ace.

[Iamtheonlyreal1]

Here is a funny thing, and I guess it shows a more liberal scew, but I posted this same video on another forum, and it is getting a whole other response.. It is a Volvo Group, which I guess tends to be more liberal.. LOL Some of the things said in objection, just blows my mind that anyone can think that.

[Sandbagger]

Top 1% of tax payers ,pay 50% of the taxes .
Is that accurate ? Where did this data come from , the Mark & Brian show ?
I dont think so ...
Is the system that screwed up ?Lived in Oxnard for six years .
You can keep it .

[MattO]

1% pay 36.7% of total individual income taxes paid and earn 16.9% of the Adjusted Gross Income (AGI).

EDIT: In 2009

[GregWeld]

Wow.... he's spot on.

I typed up an entire page here - then deleted it all. I'll just keep my mouth shut.

[Iamtheonlyreal1]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Wow.... he's spot on.

I typed up an entire page here - then deleted it all. I'll just keep my mouth shut.

Me too.. That is about as real as you can get, and I have much respect for anyone in the spotlight that will spell it out.. I would have loved to have been there to witness this speech, it would have been priceless.. I wonder if anyone recorded it, there is nothing like a truthful and uplifting speech.. I know a few of the academic under achievers, and he summed them up perfectly... LOL

[Track Junky]

Thanks for sharing. Definitley something to copy, save, and share with my kids when it is time. I dont agree with his definition of fortunate/lucky though or maybe I just misinterpeted it. The fortunate/lucky are the ones that were prepared, recognized when the opportunity presented itself, and then ran with it. The old saying "lucky is when preperation meets opportunity"

Some people dont get the proper direction or help when young due to the atmosphere they were brought up in. What would be the definition for that scenario? In order to make a positive choice, you need to be able to recognize that choice is available to you.

Maybe I'm off base here. I understand he was giving a speech among graduates but in my opinion I do believe in luck and being fortunate. IMO the graduates were lucky to have peers/parents/support/etc that helped steer and push them in a positve direction. The graduates were lucky to know that the opportunities and choices were there.

None the less, a great speech.

[hectore3]

In some respects Mr. Corrola is right about the "me" generations with all the mandatory trophies and such. But where the wheels fall off his argument is the blind worship of those who "built" the company.

There are legions of companies who have moved all operations overseas to China and those jobs are never coming back. This has been happening in particular in the midwest of this country for decades. It's just that really recently it has started to really bite at the heels of the upper middle class and their children. A college degree means little when now professional jobs can be outsourced. And student loans are forever.

If one has to work their tail off as Mr. Corrola says I'm in complete agreement with that 100 percent. But at the same time banks and corporations cannot gamble with their shareholders money and then be recapitalized with our tax revenue with no reprecussions. The have turned capitalism into a cruel joke. Corporate welfare has cost us more than anything ever.

Seems to me the ultimate form of free money has gone to the financial sector in the trillions of dollars/euro's/pounds. I don't agree with the tactics of the OWS crowd. But I must admit they are the canary in the coal mine regarding the general feeling to the powers that be.

Mr. Corolla is apparently telling a partial truth as this whole ball of wax is much more complicated than he has described.

[Iamtheonlyreal1]

Originally Posted by hectore3

In some respects Mr. Corrola is right about the "me" generations with all the mandatory trophies and such. But where the wheels fall off his argument is the blind worship of those who "built" the company.

There are legions of companies who have moved all operations overseas to China and those jobs are never coming back. This has been happening in particular in the midwest of this country for decades. It's just that really recently it has started to really bite at the heels of the upper middle class and their children. A college degree means little when now professional jobs can be outsourced. And student loans are forever.

If one has to work their tail off as Mr. Corrola says I'm in complete agreement with that 100 percent. But at the same time banks and corporations cannot gamble with their shareholders money and then be recapitalized with our tax revenue with no reprecussions. The have turned capitalism into a cruel joke. Corporate welfare has cost us more than anything ever.

Seems to me the ultimate form of free money has gone to the financial sector in the trillions of dollars/euro's/pounds. I don't agree with the tactics of the OWS crowd. But I must admit they are the canary in the coal mine regarding the general feeling to the powers that be.

Mr. Corolla is apparently telling a partial truth as this whole ball of wax is much more complicated than he has described.

I think you are missing the point.. He is talking about the successful invidual and not coporations. He is talking about the individuals in your community that have done well for themselves, and earned the luxury or toys the acquired..

His statements have nothing to do about figures, it has to do with the lack of common sense mentality of the me generation. Even if you listen to the reasoning of the other side, Equality is not in their vocabulary..

[D Rock]

"There's something that's come up in this country that didn't used to exist, which is envy, and it's a big issue. We are now dealing with the first wave of participation-trophy, my-own-fecal-matter-doesn't-stink, empowered . . . everybody's-a-winner, there-are-no-losers — we are dealing with the first wave of those [expletive] a**holes. That's who we're dealing with now."

Carolla seems to miss the point to me. All the name calling and bashing do not touch on the real issues at all and are distractions. OWS isn't pissed that some people are driving nice cars and they aren't, completely irrelevant. These people don't want a rolls Royce or Ferrari, they don't look up at these people with envy, rather down with disgust because our fellow brothers and sisters around the world are starving.

You must instinctively understand that everything you have in your home, came from somewhere, at a cost of someones time and energy. Would some of this energy used for our blind consumerism be better used in the stomach of a starving child, or healthcare for the sick?? Some certainly think so.

Perhaps lateral-g is a good representation of this as we don't think twice about spending thousands on some billet aluminum that gives us pleasure for a week or two, but Africa?? F**k them they can all starve to death for all we care.

So back to OWS, some of these people have worked to get through school, now graduate in mortgage levels of school loans, and cannot find jobs. I might be a little pissy too if I was in their position. The banks more or less have created a "Degree" Bubble, much like the housing bubble. We push for everyone to go to college, give them low interest loans, and openly accept any dumbass into the universities these days. Surprise surprise, now everyone has a degree and they are worthless.

As far as individual responsibility, there are four main factors that determine how much you will make in your lifetime:

1. Year you were born
2. Country you were born in
3. Circumstance
4. Work Ethic

Many baby boomers of today are extremely wealthly(compared to the rest of the world) for one main reason, the US hit its peak oil in 1970. We had an abundance of cheap energy that we could sell to the world and use as we please, and everyone profited.

If you really think that how hard you work determines income, consider you were born in China 300 years ago and worked the same amount you have your whole life, your income figures would be way different.


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