Idler arm fail, bigger tyres the issue?

[Sieg]

Roger - You've got all kinds of space!

[David Pozzi]

Originally Posted by Rod P

its because the steering system on a Camaro sucks, its behind the wheels (rear steer) so it takes the impact forces harder, that's why all after market frames move the steering to in front of the wheels, even GM figured it out and the 2nd gen Camaros have the the steering moved to the front also (front steer)

Very true, the braking loads on rear steer cars push up on the idler arm. Most, if not all idler arms have plastic inserts which don't hold up well near header tubes. Moog used to make an optional HD idler, I had one on my Camaro. Also Guldstrand used to sell adjustable lower ball joints!

We've had no issues with Mary's second gen, but it's not street driven much. It has had a zillion autocross laps though!

[Proforged]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Zack, you want a loose 2nd gen arm? Just replaced one in a 79 camaro

Sure. Is it aftermarket?

[Proforged]

Originally Posted by David Pozzi

Moog used to make an optional HD idler, I had one on my Camaro.

David - do you have a part # on this?

[badmatt]

Originally Posted by Proforged

Side note...if anyone in the US has a failed aftermarket idler arm, we would love to get our hands on it.

I'd like to see 3 examples so we can evaluate to see what we can learn...if anyone is interested, I'll trade them a brand new Proforged idler arm. I'll even cover your shipping both ways.

Send us an email at [email protected].

Want 4x4 S10 stuff?

I have like 3 of these in my scrap bin... My ZR2 eats them.

[Proforged]

Originally Posted by badmatt

Want 4x4 S10 stuff?

I have like 3 of these in my scrap bin... My ZR2 eats them.

We're good on the S10 stuff...it has really died off in recent years. The economy really took a bite out of that market.

Appreciate the offer.

[David Pozzi]

Originally Posted by Proforged

David - do you have a part # on this?

No, I have an old Moog catalog, but it starts at 1971. I do still have the idler arm. I think it had a nut on the bottom, & bolted to an L bracket off the frame rail.

[CarlC]

The replacement pitman arms have similar plastic inserts. They wear very quickly when used in high-load situations.

Here's a bronze replacement for the plastic insert. So far it has four years of serious abuse and shows zero signs of wear. When the time comes for the idler arm I'll go either the Proforged route or make something similar.

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[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Proforged

Sure. Is it aftermarket?

should be a moog, i will check

[Regal454]

Originally Posted by 68LS1

At least 3/4".

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cheers

Originally Posted by CarlC

The replacement pitman arms have similar plastic inserts. They wear very quickly when used in high-load situations.

Here's a bronze replacement for the plastic insert. So far it has four years of serious abuse and shows zero signs of wear. When the time comes for the idler arm I'll go either the Proforged route or make something similar.

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Who makes the bronze replacement bushing? Are the Proforged idler arms currently made with the bronze bushing?