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Old 02-23-2014, 09:12 AM
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I'm no expert Jeff but that was mentioned in a couple forums where the model was being discussed. I'm guessing the barrel or overall length is too short?
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:39 AM
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I'm no expert Jeff but that was mentioned in a couple forums where the model was being discussed. I'm guessing the barrel or overall length is too short?
I've tried to get a handle on some of those regulations. I first thought it was all federal and nationwide, we all had the same rules/laws, but apparently the rules can vary state to state. In Tennessee you can have almost anything if you are willing to apply for a tax stamp (federal process). Short barrels, suppressors, etc. The only definite I found is full-auto. Illegal everywhere for all but law enforcement or manufacturers (but I get the impression there are sneaky ways around that too). The worst of it is, if you make a mistake, the "I didn't know" defense will not work.


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I'm no expert Jeff but that was mentioned in a couple forums where the model was being discussed. I'm guessing the barrel or overall length is too short?
Shotguns (in CA) have to have a barrel of at least 18 inches. Not sure in other states. This looks shorter than 18?

I know semi auto centerfire rifles have to be a total of 30 inches (so no folding stock) in CA but not sure the total length shotgun minimum.

It is a bear just to stay on top of these rules.
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You could set it up as an AOW with a few mods but it may be iffy. try a search here: www.calguns.net

"An A.O.W. is a weapon classification utilized by the B.A.T.F. to categorize and restrict those weapons that are not considered to be a rifle, pistol, or machinegun. An example of an A.O.W. is a short-barreled shotgun or a pen-gun. They are class III (NFA) items, and must be approved for transfer to individuals at the federal level (with a "form-4"). Cost to transfer= $5.00"

I believe if run a single shot sled to make it a single shot during transfer you could reconfigure after registration.
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I had a Mossberg riot shotgun with the pistol grip. MAN ... did that thing work your hand over!
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I believe OR is 18 on shotguns and 16 on rifles.

I also believe Class III permits solve those problems.
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Akdal MKA 1919 - AR style semi auto mag fed shotgun.


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try a search here: www.calguns.net
Nice, Vince. That's like saying go over to yellowbullet and try to find an azzhole.


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Roger that. That's why mine got an ATI stock pretty quickly after purchase.
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Nice, Vince. That's like saying go over to yellowbullet and try to find an azzhole.




Roger that. That's why mine got an ATI stock pretty quickly after purchase.
Whaaaaaaatttt, it's a good place to start...is it cause it's CA base? NFA Laws are laws no matter where you live.

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