thanks guys,,,yea I figured about 6 hours too,,,and as far as the zip tie removal I guess I just was pissed that he didnt cover the holes cause thats exactly what I would do too,,but after I had the intake,valley pan,oil pan off,,I was like screw it Im gonna go through it..And yes Im in the process of taking the car out of the shop,,but Im going to run into some problems because he also cut out my 8 point cage ( without talking to me ) and put in a full nascar type cage,,and im sure hes going to want a pretty penny for that.