Ron Sutton Offset 3-Link install

[Ron in SoCal]

Brakes?

It's a one off, frankenstein sorta deal Bryan. No more complete kit parts available for this I'm told. Best bet would be to contact Blake.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Brakes?

It's a one off, frankenstein sorta deal Bryan. No more complete kit parts available for this I'm told. Best bet would be to contact Blake.

Doesn't DSE sell a version too? I remember Tommy had a version right before Steilow released his version. Interesting kit if you want a floater.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

Doesn't DSE sell a version too? I remember Tommy had a version right before Steilow released his version. Interesting kit if you want a floater.

I know DSE had one in development. Not sure if they worked with Mark on that but wouldn't be surprised. Looking at Mark's, I really like the improvements he made in the axle end placement.

The one above is derived from Tom's original design, I think. I had heard a couple of different versions of that story. He did not manufacture the housing ends as far as I know.

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

Doesn't DSE sell a version too? I remember Tommy had a version right before Steilow released his version. Interesting kit if you want a floater.

DSE is in development of one, but they are currently only selling the Baer floater as far as I have been told.

[WSSix]

fast burn, slow burn, or whatever burn, it's bada$$.

[MillerBuilt]

Originally Posted by carbuff

I can't wait to watch this, as I'm interested in Ron's setup as well. I have a question about the housing below, specifically the brakes. That looks a lot like the setup Speedtech (I think it was them) was putting together a couple of years ago which used the C6 bearing as an alternative to a full-floating brake setup. Can you give any more specifics?

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

Doesn't DSE sell a version too? I remember Tommy had a version right before Steilow released his version. Interesting kit if you want a floater.

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

I know DSE had one in development. Not sure if they worked with Mark on that but wouldn't be surprised. Looking at Mark's, I really like the improvements he made in the axle end placement.

The one above is derived from Tom's original design, I think. I had heard a couple of different versions of that story. He did not manufacture the housing ends as far as I know.

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

DSE is in development of one, but they are currently only selling the Baer floater as far as I have been told.

First off, nice stuff Ron!

Second off, sorry in advance for self promotion below but couldn't resist (would almost give you a set if you want to cut off those proprietary units you have now)

Thirdly, I think this car may actually need/justify a set of my fabricated steel C6 Uprights


For what its worth in regards to above responses, I am machining a few sets next week of this type rear setup (C6 Flange end), and could easily machine a few more if anyone is interested....

Ok, back to Ron's build!

[Ron Sutton]

Hi Bryan,

Originally Posted by carbuff

I can't wait to watch this, as I'm interested in Ron's setup as well. I have a question about the housing below, specifically the brakes. That looks a lot like the setup Speedtech (I think it was them) was putting together a couple of years ago which used the C6 bearing as an alternative to a full-floating brake setup. Can you give any more specifics?

Ron Myer already had the housing. I do not think they are available anymore. When I provide housings, we use Speedway Engineering Floaters.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Ron Sutton

Hi Bryan,



Ron Myer already had the housing. I do not think they are available anymore. When I provide housings, we use Speedway Engineering Floaters.

Yes if there is interest in the housing they can be produced still. They are complicated to get all the parts together but we can still do it. if your interested call Speedtech Performance.

[James OLC]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

The goal of this thread is to document Ron Sutton's 3 link design.

I'm just getting started, but basically it's this -

Looks like a variation of a Coleman dual action / pro link or allstar three link - very cool. I've been looking at the possibility of utilizing shock bushings with the LD 3-link but the reality is it would take some alone time with the OLC so it will have to wait a while.

Can't go wrong with support from Ron - I have to get in touch with him in the new year and see if we can't put something together with my car for the short term...

Great to see progress being made!

[Ron Sutton]

Hi James,

Originally Posted by James OLC

Looks like a variation of a Coleman dual action / pro link or allstar three link - very cool.
The Coleman dual action 3rd link (Top link) is actually a decoupled 3-link, where one link is an accel link & the other is the decel link. I like Coleman & work with them often, but I'm not a fan of how they did their dual action decoupled 3-link. They designed it backwards & upside down from what I think of as a standard or optimum design decoupled 3-link.

They did so with good reasons ...
1. To be different in the marketplace
2. So it fit common oval track chassis mounts with no modifications.

Unfortunately I don't have good photos of my two models of decoupled 3-links. Payton King will be installing the decoupled 3-link he got from me here in the coming year & that will show the orientation of the accel & decel links.

I've been looking at the possibility of utilizing shock bushings with the LD 3-link but the reality is it would take some alone time with the OLC so it will have to wait a while.
I think you would like it. The bushings help high powered car's with TW200 tires for sure. The torque absorber I have on a different client's car uses TW200 tires, a twin turbo LS & the torque absorber I tailored for him has softer bushings & more of them. I have his engineered to compress all the bushings 1-1/8" under hard acceleration ... to really soften the shock & plant the rear tires. Now he is full throttle by corner exit. There is more to it than this ... specifically how long we make the the top link lever to define the "lift & load" percentage.

Can't go wrong with support from Ron - I have to get in touch with him in the new year and see if we can't put something together with my car for the short term...
I'd love to work with you on your hot rod. Contact me when you're ready.

Great to see progress being made!

We'll post up some progress pics next week.