Hobbs Camaro (Old Drag Car)

[Che70velle]

This is cool Mark. I’ve always loved the tech you’ve poured into your builds…I remember following QuadraDeuce as a teenager, for instance. With your Camaros (mostly) going max-effort LS builds, a TT SBC, and a couple LT’s for good measure, why not throw a GM 632 crate in this one, for “nostalgia” and all out power as well. You could dry sump it, improve the valvetrain, and make it trackable, while being just cool as crap. Torque for days, without forced induction. My next pro touring build will have the 632 and a 6 speed. I love the LS platform (I’m a mod on LS1Tech) and build quite a few of them, but the 632 is just plain tits.

[BonzoHansen]

Cool find.

If it still had that crazy paint job it would have screamed out for that 632.

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Cool find.

If it still had that crazy paint job it would have screamed out for that 632.

I have driven the 632 development vehicle. It is very civilized for 1000 HP. My buddy did the cal work and it idles at 850 RPM and drives nice for a 1000 HP BBC. It is a bit loud and rowdy. If you like open pipe Harley Davison motorcycle you should get a 632.

You will also need a TALL hood unless you swap to a Hogan style front TB intake. Scoggin. Dickey is testing some.


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[Stielow]

Originally Posted by Che70velle

This is cool Mark. I’ve always loved the tech you’ve poured into your builds…I remember following QuadraDeuce as a teenager, for instance. With your Camaros (mostly) going max-effort LS builds, a TT SBC, and a couple LT’s for good measure, why not throw a GM 632 crate in this one, for “nostalgia” and all out power as well. You could dry sump it, improve the valvetrain, and make it trackable, while being just cool as crap. Torque for days, without forced induction. My next pro touring build will have the 632 and a 6 speed. I love the LS platform (I’m a mod on LS1Tech) and build quite a few of them, but the 632 is just plain tits.

I’ve owned and driven a large number of Powertrains now. For pure joy of driving the best package I have ever had it is the 427 LS9 built by Brian Thompson. We have beat the crap out of that combination and it just works for track, street and cross country cruising. Not a cheap date but very good. The best bang for your buck is a stock LT4. Very good linear power. Throttle response not as good, but fantastic drivability.

The 632 is pissed off. If you want to roll into the cars and coffee and have a penis measuring contest this is your clear winner. The 632 at work is very cool. My wife and neighbors are not big fans of the dual 4.5 exhaust on it need to make 1004 HP as installed. The headers are also 2 inches stepped to 2.25 BIG HEADERS. It is a Pro Street or Drag engine. That valve train and oiling system would not be happy on a autocross or a road course.

For me I always like the flexibility of a blower motor. Docile idle, easy on valve train and great throttle response. Also with the blower cars you can get away with a GOOD 3 inch exhaust system. It just pisses of your neighbors but you don’t get a letter from the HOA.

Any car that make over 900 hp the whole package is a challenge, if you want to track it. The fuel system is not a joke. The cooling system needs to be stout. The clutch, trans, driveshaft and diff all need a lot of extra attention.

Big power is big fun and big money. I’ve been playing with them for a bit.

For this car I’m starting with a 2015 Z 2/8 spec LS7. The Z2/8 program manager fixed a few critical issues with the LS7. The engine is a rock solid 525 HP in a hot rod. It should be brick reliable and very civilized. If I don’t like the 525 HP, I can yank it out and drive over to Brian Thompson’s and “fix” it.

Mark

[thedugan]

So what car will be done first? Charley's 67 or this 69? or the 55....

With the painted firewall does that mean you are just bolting in the hyd clutch bracket?

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by Stielow

For this car I’m starting with a 2015 Z 2/8 spec LS7. The Z2/8 program manager fixed a few critical issues with the LS7. The engine is a rock solid 525 HP in a hot rod. It should be brick reliable and very civilized. If I don’t like the 525 HP, I can yank it out and drive over to Brian Thompson’s and “fix” it.

Mark

You're gonna want more power. Remember the Mule? GREAT looking car and engine package. But Charley was bored to tears as it was by far the slowest car he had lol, hence the twin-turbo project. I love the idea of N/A and the big block look, but I'd want at least another 100 hp over what you've planned, and only do it once. Just a thought from an arm chair QB...

[LS7 Z/28]

Originally Posted by Stielow

For this car I’m starting with a 2015 Z 2/8 spec LS7. The Z2/8 program manager fixed a few critical issues with the LS7. The engine is a rock solid 525 HP in a hot rod. It should be brick reliable and very civilized. If I don’t like the 525 HP, I can yank it out and drive over to Brian Thompson’s and “fix” it.

Mark

I went to Brian years ago because I knew you trusted him. He built me a very solid LS7. It was nothing crazy like the 900 plus builds you've done, but naturally aspirated at 665 HP, it was pretty wild. I can completely understand why you're going the route you're going and I think it's a great idea. My car was definitely loud, to the point of being a lot of fun, but annoying. One of the best memories I had was sitting waiting in the autocross line, the starter guy says, " How big of an engine is that?" So I told him 427, and he says with a smirk, "You can tell". I definitely laughed at that. It shook the ground even at that power level. My grandpa actually raced a real ZL1 engine bought from a dealership new back in the day in a couple of dirt oval cars and he always talked about how it shook the ground wherever they went. 427 is cool no matter how you slice it.

[Stielow]

Some more old photos.







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[srode1]

Wow, what an awesome find! Looking forward to seeing what you do with this one - looks like a keeper.

[camcojb]

What a great piece of history. You and Charley seem to have a knack for finding the impossible. Let me know if you want it added to your website.