1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Flash68

True, but due to my resourcefulness, I bet I got it for a 1/4 of what you paid. And don't give me that Ford vs Chevy parts availability excuse.

Okay I had a similar Matt Alcala situation the other day at Watson going over the motor teardown and inspection of my SB2.

Nothing is good and everything needs something.. of course.

Dude it sucks but in the end you won't spend much more if any than if you built it from scratch and it will be built right.

You do know the availability of Ford Sidoiler dry sumps is next to nothing right?

Originally Posted by Matt.A

God D@mn, I feel for you. I keep forgetting our cars' engines both crapped out the same weekend at El Toro.

This is turning into a race to see who bought the biggest turd, and it looks like you're winning since your new engine is a pile.

Dude, I am sorry to hear about this. I know how expensive these things get, and how all kinds of little things you forgot or didn't know you had to buy just magically seem to end up on your parts list.

I'm glad to hear you just decided to "fix it" like Weld. That is what I decided to do today as well, and everyone tells me I won't miss the money once I'm driving, so get driving soon. We need to find out if you have more power than Rob.

Matt

p.s. Shipka has a little 5.3 you could just throw in there.

Almost all his big parts are usable so I think you are in the lead. Not that you want to be winning that race.

Never going to happen on pump gas. Now DG may go all in and then it will be a horse race. But only one will be streetable

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Sieg

You know it.

Originally Posted by compos mentis

S.A.R.(R.Y.) to hear about all those issues.

The good news is there won't be any more redo's

After all, it's not an LS.

An LS... those are for flunkies.

Originally Posted by badmatt

^ low, low, low, blow.

How bad is the cap walk? Possibly because too to little thrust clearance?

Also what block is it?

But dont feel too bad. i nearly Sh*t my self when I looked at my crank. huge hole, is huge.



Matt

He's gonna send the crank out... said the thrust bearing was toast... like Rob said everything should be usable... it's just a matter of more time and more money.

Block is Dart Little M. Mike will do a soft hone on it he said and redo the mains and it should be good.

He did like the crank overall though. Need to weigh it but it is pretty damn lighweight.

Originally Posted by Matt.A

God D@mn, I feel for you. I keep forgetting our cars' engines both crapped out the same weekend at El Toro.

This is turning into a race to see who bought the biggest turd, and it looks like you're winning since your new engine is a pile.

Dude, I am sorry to hear about this. I know how expensive these things get, and how all kinds of little things you forgot or didn't know you had to buy just magically seem to end up on your parts list.

I'm glad to hear you just decided to "fix it" like Weld. That is what I decided to do today as well, and everyone tells me I won't miss the money once I'm driving, so get driving soon. We need to find out if you have more power than Rob.

Matt

p.s. Shipka has a little 5.3 you could just throw in there.

Yep I read your post and didn't even wanna post mine. Rather spread out our misery. It always can be worse and like you said we think we are getting a deal of some kind and it often bites our arse. At least we are both doing what we need to and taking it to the right people to make sure it gets done right.

If we have the clearance for the 50mm cam then we get to choose the cam specs. Then I have a new vested interest in some extra hp.

5.3 LS? That is short a couple liters. Oh and it's an LS and wouldn't leak.

Originally Posted by DFRESH

I got a cracked block 406 that will slide right in there big daddy. No worries.

I for one like the purple wiggins setup---it adds some style points.

Sounds like GW needs to come back in on this project. Put some Intro's on it and he'll be interested again.

BW

That 406 is a trooper. Wont' die. Like that daddy long leg spider in the corner of my room I just can't reach.

I knew you'd love the purple fittings. Race car.

I actually have some renderings of my last Camaro with some Intros on it... wait, did I just say that?

Originally Posted by FETorino

Almost all his parts are usable so I think you are in the lead. Not that you want to be winning that race.

Never going to happen on pump gas. Now DG may go all in and then it will be a horse race. But only one will be streetable

Yeah yeah yeah.... I might just say fvck it and turn it up and go 13:1 and big cam to win the $20 bet. That would be justifiable wouldn't it?

Streetable? Don't worry I will drive it more than Todd did his PT car on the street.

[Matt@BOS]

I'm sure you will drive it on the street more than Todd did with his car. You don't put your car on jack stands and pull out the black rubber gloves at the first sight of a drop of oil. You're probably more like me. When I fired my car up at the gas station close to Doug's house after El Toro I had to wait 5 minutes for all the smoke to clear so we could see well enough to pull out of the drive way.

My engine should be done in 10 days so I think you're winning the race to the most broken parts. (my famous last words).

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Matt.A

I'm sure you will drive it on the street more than Todd did with his car. You don't put your car on jack stands and pull out the black rubber gloves at the first sight of a drop of oil. You're probably more like me. When I fired my car up at the gas station close to Doug's house after El Toro I had to wait 5 minutes for all the smoke to clear so we could see well enough to pull out of the drive way.

My engine should be done in 10 days so I think you're winning the race to the most broken parts. (my famous last words).

Oil leaks? Those are badges of honor for me. Or something like that. As long as it's on Doug's driveway and not mine.

Oh yeah smoke and all.... love that... it gives me a reason to tell all the onlookers and questions-askers that "no, it's supposed to work like that... thanks though.... carry on."

10 days? That's pretty good. I might need 10 weeks.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Flash68

10 days? That's pretty good. I might need 10 weeks.

Can you speed that up I don't want to wait that long for my $20.

[Vegas69]

I hate to say I told you so. Well, maybe not.

There is one way to build these things if they are going to last, the right way. Glad Watson is blue printing the entire engine.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I hate to say I told you so. Well, maybe not.

There is one way to build these things if they are going to last, the right way. Glad Watson is blue printing the entire engine.

Yeah I shoulda known.... it was a good chance it would turn out this way.

Yep I brought it to Watson for a reason... if I didn't allow them to do their thing what would be the point right?

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Yep I brought it to Watson for a reason... if I didn't allow them to do their thing what would be the point right?

Exactly As customers we have the desire for big power and reliability but can't easily accept the expense associated with it.

The more stories I read about people trying to get the most for their money (natural human trait) the more I understand the prices of Watson, Mast, etc. Building motors right has to be a tough sales job and somewhat thank-less business in many cases from my observations over the years. Think of the number of hours they spend educating people who realistically can't afford their product.

Then comes the customer obligation to properly maintain what their desires built which is somewhat like going through a buffet line when you're starving and then having to eat everything you piled on your plate.

[GregWeld]

Make sure you ship your brand new motor to Steve's Auto Restoration (S.A.R.) in Portland Oregon --- so they can fire it off and run it with no oil...

Get's everything seated right off the bat.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Make sure you ship your brand new motor to Steve's Auto Restoration (S.A.R.) in Portland Oregon --- so they can fire it off and run it with no oil...

Get's everything seated right off the bat.

Do they do that for everyone or only the high roller customers