Project "Payback"

[CrossRamRich]

Badstinkyfinger is ready for some roadcourse, Fernly or Buttonwillow?

[Vegas69]

I've got 4 local events between now and May 22nd. That should keep me happy until Summer. How did you break my Jack?

[Vegas69]

Well, my hopes of a super fast autocross was trumped by getting my ass handed to me by every Miata West of the Mississippi. They thought they had set up a fast course but it just didn't work out that way. It was slick asphalt and from what I can figure, it is the drag strip burn out dust. Even the guys with A6's and go karts said it was greasy.

Needless to say, my whole new rear sway bar deal didn't work out. Felt phenomenal on the street but was just to damn loose on this slow, slick track. So I took my shocks down to 0 and let air out of the rear tires in the morning and still couldn't get it planted. Lunch time was spent pulling the rear bar and going back to my El Toro settings. I only had 3 shots at it in the afternoon and ended up having to cut my shock setting in half from El Toro to start getting a real handle on the deal. I still think the bar would work on the road course, especially concrete. The positive side is it was a gorgeous day for a cruise and I found my settings for a slick slow asphalt track.

I'm considering ditching these street tires and going back to R888's. I'd be forced to run exibition at the pro touring events but I run local SCCA events on a more frequent basis. That still allows me to drive the car to the race track and compete with all these SCCA guys on A6's and such. I can also still drive in the rain, etc...

After doing fairly well at El Toro, this was a real slap in the sack. I know this isn't an ideal autocross car, but that was **##**# embarrasing. Maybe I'm just losing that loving feeling...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIxP9X5sEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NumzISInve0

[Track Junky]

I hate spending money on tire's.........wait, let me rephrase, I cant afford to spend money on tires. On the R888's I'm finding that they are getting hard before the treads gone so I'm thinking they heat cycle out fairly early. RA-1's are awesome shaved but unfortunately they dont make anything bigger than a 275 IIRC.

All The NASA guys I run with use A6's. They warm up quick on the road course but they also get greasy quick but they dont seem to mind. They say by the time they fall off they have already laid down some fast times. This would be Time Trials, not racing.

I'd love to pick up some 200 tread wear tires and hang with you guys but I just cant afford to buy 2 sets of tires.

I'm going to try the R888's one more time this year and if They truly are gone I'm pulling the trigger on some A6's.

[Vegas69]

If you hate buying tires, don't go to A6's. I've talked to a couple people that have shredded them in ONE day Autocrossing on concrete. Why not an R6?

[CrossRamRich]

How did you break my Jack?[/QUOTE]

Is it all "Jacked up"? Wasn't that the "Jack Hoff 9000"?

[Track Junky]

I asked those guys the same question. They said the A6's were faster. These guys have been running them for years and I never bought them because of the expense. With the economy the way it is it may be a long time before I have the opportunity to do this so its either now or maybe never.

My second choice would be shaved RA-1's but word out on track is that the A6's are 3 seconds a lap quicker. 3 seconds is huge. RA-1's are kick ass when they are slicks. The only time I ever got a first place was when my RA-1's were slicks.

[Flash68]

Damn dude... didn't even get to stretch your legs it looked like. So much for a nice fast course... bummer.

I always appreciate a nice power slide though.

[Vegas69]

That was the highlight of the day for sure. The camera doesn't do the power slide or save at the finish justice. Had about 10-15 clapping at the end. Next autocross is at Nellis Air Force base on concrete. Hope to let the pony's loose.

[Payton King]

Saw your smiling face on the Optima Challenge I re-watched last night.

Go over to www.corvetteforum.com go to "general corvette" and then to "auto cross and road race" section. You can find scubs and low heat cycle A6's and R888 cheap...maybe $75-$100 a tire. they come up pretty often in 18 inch sizes. You should be able to find the guy that deals in them and talk directly to him.

From what I have read over there you will need to run a lot of camber to keep from cording the edges of the A6 and R6. A-is for auto cross and soft compound and R is for the big track. Takes heat better but harder. Just like stated above most run the A6 for qualifying or time trial runs.