Greg Weld's 65 Mustang fastback track car

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Okay -- that makes sense! Expensive - but makes sense!

I've experienced the cold tire/cold track lack of grip!

If you're going out for the first time -- how long do you give your tires to get some heat in them?

What tires? When I was behind guys with A6's within half a lap they were gone. Not sure about R6's. My 100 read wear feel best after about a lap and a half.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

No slow Camaro parking.....

You are seriously tempting me to show up at the end of the month

[GregWeld]

At Bondurant -- they told us that all the weaving back and forth was just a big waste of time... and that just rolling into the corners and the on and off the gas would heat the tires faster. I don't know if they just made that up or not - but they're all race car guys.

[Track Junky]

Not sure I agree with that. Cold tires roll over when your weaving and you heat the outside edges quicker. I dont weave to heat tires very often if at all just thought I'd comment.

So both you and your wife are going to drive your car at T-Hill?

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Not sure I agree with that. Cold tires roll over when your weaving and you heat the outside edges quicker. I dont weave to heat tires very often if at all just thought I'd comment.

So both you and your wife are going to drive your car at T-Hill?

From a motorcyclist's track day experience most organizers strongly restrict weaving. More crashes than heat gain is one and probably the primary reason. They say acceleration and braking will gain more heat than weaving.

BUT........we see most the big boys on TV weaving, especially F1. IMO - Any time you can create friction and carcass flex you're building heat. The key is doing safely.

At track days on the bikes I take it easy the first half lap and gradually ramp up the pace the next 1.5 laps, then it's as hard as I feel capable of pushing that session or day given the ambient and track temps. I run sticky DOT's and don't use warmers.

I can't remember the race but there was an F1 celebrity that lost it in the warm-up lap building heat in the tyres and took himself out of the race not too many years ago.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by Sieg

I can't remember the race but there was an F1 celebrity that lost it in the warm-up lap building heat in the tyres and took himself out of the race not too many years ago.

Good friend of mine did exactly that at Indy on the first lap. Lost his ride before the next race.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Sieg

From a motorcyclist's track day experience most organizers strongly restrict weaving. More crashes than heat gain is one and probably the primary reason. They say acceleration and braking will gain more heat than weaving.

BUT........we see most the big boys on TV weaving, especially F1. IMO - Any time you can create friction and carcass flex you're building heat. The key is doing safely.

At track days on the bikes I take it easy the first half lap and gradually ramp up the pace the next 1.5 laps, then it's as hard as I feel capable of pushing that session or day given the ambient and track temps. I run sticky DOT's and don't use warmers.

I can't remember the race but there was an F1 celebrity that lost it in the warm-up lap building heat in the tyres and took himself out of the race not too many years ago.

THAT is exactly why they told us not to weave! They said they have more wrecks from that than anything.... And that - as you stated - just accelerate and brake and the heat will come quickly.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Not sure I agree with that. Cold tires roll over when your weaving and you heat the outside edges quicker. I dont weave to heat tires very often if at all just thought I'd comment.

So both you and your wife are going to drive your car at T-Hill?

Yes -- Gwen is scheduled for instructor ride along and I hope the car doesn't scare the crap out of her. It'll be quite a bit different than a stock SS Camaro...
The Mustang is "race car rough" and loud... and pretty powerful and rev's quite quickly... as in instantly. But it's fun to drive and I hope she likes the difference from a street car.

She's missing the DNA of "visor down, race on" so she should be fine.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Good friend of mine did exactly that at Indy on the first lap. Lost his ride before the next race.

DOH!

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Yes -- Gwen is scheduled for instructor ride along and I hope the car doesn't scare the crap out of her. It'll be quite a bit different than a stock SS Camaro...
The Mustang is "race car rough" and loud... and pretty powerful and rev's quite quickly... as in instantly. But it's fun to drive and I hope she likes the difference from a street car.

She's missing the DNA of "visor down, race on" so she should be fine.

If my wife was about to drive my car with a Jerico transmission at the track I'd bring a spare.