Project "Payback"

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Decision has been made for now. R888's are going back on the car. I should say my old rears are going back on and I've ordered a set of shaved fronts in a slightly wider width than before. My old rears just happen to be shaved depth. When I originally went down this road it was for a few different reasons.

1. I can still pro tour on these tires with reasonable life expectancy. Clearly my shaved tires will only give me half the life expecancy. If I can get 6 months to a year out of them, I'm OK with that. Unshaved will go 10k.
2. I can autocross and road race on the same set. Not the BEST autocross tire, but they are somewhere between a street tire and an A6.
3. I can still drive to the track. Trailering to the local track is going to be a buzz kill. I enjoy the early Sunday morning drive and evening cruise through the Lake almost as much as the racing. Throw it in overdrive and relax, give it hell, and throw it in overdrive and relax.

At this point, I've chased the neon rainbow with my street tires. I was lucky enough to run the Optima Street Car Invitational. The BFG's will still be laying around if I decide I want to fight for a spot. The reality will likely be me running exibition from here on out. Can I beat DSE and Finch at this point? NO My car is to fat and I'm not a good enough driver. I'm man enough to admit it. I've got a 666hp missile here that needs all the grip I can get. Especially competing againsty these SCCA guys! So, in normal PT style, I'm going to ride the fence. My tire of choice is going to be something that can do it all. Maybe it's not ideal, but it will do it all reasonably.

I gotta agree w everything you said above, Todd. Who says you're not a PT addict if you're not running 200 treadwear? Not me. Now I'm not knocking anyone who does, nor the 'rule' at these events, but I made the decision long ago that a little stickier tire was a good thing. You and I and anyone else can still run at these events and hang out w the crowd, and they can fight over the $5 trophy. The R888s might be a problem in the under 140 TW class though...

Maybe we'll start our own class!

[awr68]

I love the look of the R888! IIRC, You loved this tire before, right?

[Vegas69]

Love would be a strong term, but I certainly liked them better than anything else on the car. The biggest difference is the rear side bite. The only bad thing is I get to go back to the drawing board on set up. I have notes from when I had them on before, the problem is I have changed out the springs.

[Bow Tie 67]

How much are PS2's compared to the R888? I have been told they are a much better tire than the KDW's. BFG also mentioned they are coming out with a new KDW that is better, I just dont know when they will be released.

I " love " my R888's and will be running PS 2's this summer, so I will know first hand in 4 to 6 weeks. Man these winters are @$#%# long.

[Vegas69]

Hey Matt, the PS2 is big money compared to both. I've got the rear R888's already and bought a pair of shaved fronts cheap. I'll be interested to know what you think. I know the PS2 is faster than the KDW. It's twice the money.

[Vegas69]

It's been a long fun road but it's time to say good bye. My car is SOLD. I was contacted by an individual from Saudi Arabia and I just can't pass up the offer. I'm not sure what I'll build next. Thanks for all the support guys.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

It's been a long fun road but it's time to say good bye. My car is SOLD. I was contacted by an individual from Saudi Arabia and I just can't pass up the offer. I'm not sure what I'll build next. Thanks for all the support guys.

You f*ckface! Okay, what's the price, or ballpark? And what's next? It's a sad day in the pro touring world my friend.....

[frojoe]

Hmm this smells of the 1st of April...

[frojoe]

Holy crap, I already got a PM from him saying this is the real deal... I guess it is a sad day, not gonna lie, this was my favourite Camaro on the site, it makes up a ton of the pics on my rotating desktop background. Good luck on the next one!!!!

[Vegas69]

Thanks guys... I've got some ideas floating around. Stielow is on 10 or 11 so I hope to follow in his footsteps. I've learned so much building Payback. She's going to a good home.