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			Cool heat extractors. I kid you not, I was standing around my Camaro at Best of Show and thinking the 69's side vents could use something on the fenders, then thought it'd be cool if someone opened them up, but figured nobody would try because of all the work required to make it look good. I figured you'd have to taper the opening from the middle body line in the door on back. Then I come home and you guys have done exactly what I was thinking. Looks awesome. Can't wait to see more.
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					Originally Posted by HWY Nova  Hey Dave,
 If I'm not mistaken, this can still be a Ridler Car....... You are allowed to publish UN-FINISHED, UN-PAINTED PHOTOS of the car prior to the show!!!!.... You just can't publish photos after its painted (before the show).
 
 This has got to be one of the nicest Camaros on the planet..... Keep it up!!!
 
 
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 |  I don't think you can show any of the parts of the car before the show start.Troy of Rad Rides show the frame of the 56 chrysler at a good guys event and they did not allow him in the great 8. What is crazy  Chip show that 36 ford on the Rides show the year before and it won the Ridler award the next year.
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					Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson  I don't think you can show any of the parts of the car before the show start.Troy of Rad Rides show the frame of the 56 chrysler at a good guys event and they did not allow him in the great 8. What is crazy  Chip show that 36 ford on the Rides show the year before and it won the Ridler award the next year. |  From the Detroit Autorama website:
Ridler Guidelines & Rules 
 Don Ridler was the first professional promoter hired by the Michigan Hot Rod Association to assist them with their fledgling Autorama in the fifties. With Don’s creativity and professional approach in promoting, Autorama was able to grow tremendously, and eventually move to its present home at Cobo Center in 1961. In 1963, Autorama decided to honor Don Ridler, who had prematurely passed away, with an award given in his name.
 
 Originally the award was given to the Best Vehicle first-time shown. Over the last forty years the award has evolved to better conform to new ideas, changing designs and concepts. Today it emphasizes creativity, engineering and workmanship. Anyone building a vehicle for Ridler competition should post these words on their garage wall. The vehicle that best represents these three areas will win the Ridler Award.
 
 In addition to the above judging guidelines, there are a few hard and fast rules, with no exceptions.
 
 The vehicle must make its first public showing at the Detroit Autorama. Showing the vehicle at any indoor or outdoor show or any part of the entry, i.e. frame, engine or body, will make it ineligible for contention.
 Realizing that car owners and builders may need some form or exposure to develop interest or to gain sponsorship and give credit to suppliers and/or sponsors, magazine and video build-up coverage is allowed. No articles, video footage or stories with photos of the vehicle in finished form will be allowed until after the award has been presented, i.e. car cannot be painted or upholstered to be used in any media format.
 
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			You can show the car in bare metal but not in paint and still contend for the ridler. Troy was disqualified due to the fact he had shown the car going togther in paint on his website. But when they started reassembly the radrides 56 was not intended for the ridler. That car is hands down super awesome. But the ridler is all about paint and chroming senseless parts. The first love 36 was bulit and designed from day one to win the Ridler. This car is not designed or intended to be a "show car". Sure it will be nice, but I have no intention in smearing bondo over nice TIG welds or coating the stainless headers. Headers should be raw stainless ( Or Titanium ) and have every hand laid TIG weld shining in bright BLUE and GOLD. Not chromed exhaust.
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					Originally Posted by ironworks  You can show the car in bare metal but not in paint and still contend for the ridler. Troy was disqualified due to the fact he had shown the car going togther in paint on his website. But when they started reassembly the radrides 56 was not intended for the ridler. That car is hands down super awesome. But the ridler is all about paint and chroming senseless parts. The first love 36 was bulit and designed from day one to win the Ridler. This car is not designed or intended to be a "show car". Sure it will be nice, but I have no intention in smearing bondo over nice TIG welds or coating the stainless headers. Headers should be raw stainless ( Or Titanium ) and have every hand laid TIG weld shining in bright BLUE and GOLD. Not chromed exhaust. |  But, but, but........ but what if Dave likes chrome?
 
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					Originally Posted by nvr2fst  .....(also it moved the trunk lid forward toward the glass which eventually you'll see why)..... |  You're not thinking of doing a hatchback are you?   
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			I was thrilled to get the call from Rodger a while back to be involved with a project of this caliber.  Dave and Rodger have really made this a dream project for me and I greatly appreciate them for letting me take a whack at it.
 Yes, it's ANOTHER 69 Camaro, but it's become far more than that.  I believe this project will prove to 1st gen owners and builders alike that everything HASN'T been done to these.
 
 What was really cool for me was that much of the sheet metal work Rodger had already completed were things I had wanted to do if I had one of my own.
 
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			This 69 is an absolute work of art! It is an innovation & surpasing the boundries of the ultimate 69 Camaro    
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 The all started when Rodger awhile ago posted up the "most radical 69" thread. We reviewed everything there was out there and tried to go beyond that "box". Hopefully you guys enjoy so far and Im all ears to your thoughts.
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			Well with that said the rear section in reality was shortened by 2" but extended through the spoiler area to actually obtain the same length, (also it moved the trunk lid forward toward the glass which eventually you'll see why) With the front fenders being shortened by 2" it becomes an almost natural look. The problem that Rodger has with the camaro once you lower the hell out of it, the body style becomes too long. I think he nailed it. 
 Dave, had you not mentioned the car being shorten, I would not have pick it up from the pics. Very subtle and very nice.
 
 Are you guys going to drop the roof line?
 
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