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**Steve1968LS2** · #**221** 08-26-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt@Lateral Dynamics

In all seriousness, the only way I know of is to run your vent line through a charcol canister, but have no personal experience with that.

I've been around lots of race cars and street rods stored in enclosed trailers and garages and I've never even noticed a gas smell. Maybe I just expect it and my brain ignores it.

You guys do realise that you own hot rods, right? They're supposed to be stinky and loud.

Could you take an Aeromotive fuel filter, empty out the element, plug the ends with mesh then fill it with activated charcol? This way it would be easy to plumb your vent line through it... would it work?

I havent had much luck finding charcol canisters except at the aquarium store. I have some extra aeromotive filters.. thoughts?

Mean 69 · #**222** 08-26-2006, 08:57 AM

As I was told by both the folks at Fuel Safe, and ATL (both are one company now as I understand it), the issue with fumes isn't the venting (at least not alone), but the bladder. It will allow vapor release, and there ain't squat you can do about it. In fact, the guy I talked to actually talked me into a lesser bladder (I have the cross linked poly unit) from the fabric type I had been eyeing, he said there'd be less vapor release, it'd stand up better to the crap additives that the fuel companies are forced to put into pump gas (remember WAY back when that gas used to smell good?), and for a part time track car I'd be happier.

And yes, the obvious solution is race gas, Matt is so smart. Or something like that. Overall, it's not that bad, so don't stress about it too much.

M

**Steve1968LS2** · #**223** 08-26-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mean 69

As I was told by both the folks at Fuel Safe, and ATL (both are one company now as I understand it), the issue with fumes isn't the venting (at least not alone), but the bladder. It will allow vapor release, and there ain't squat you can do about it. In fact, the guy I talked to actually talked me into a lesser bladder (I have the cross linked poly unit) from the fabric type I had been eyeing, he said there'd be less vapor release, it'd stand up better to the crap additives that the fuel companies are forced to put into pump gas (remember WAY back when that gas used to smell good?), and for a part time track car I'd be happier.

And yes, the obvious solution is race gas, Matt is so smart. Or something like that. Overall, it's not that bad, so don't stress about it too much.

M

Yea, but would my idea work out right for regular street tank vent system. Was thinking it might be a fix. I just bought a vent bung today that has a check valve in it (in case my car ends up "upside down". Now I want to find something to shut off the fule pump if it senses a certain number of g's (or whatever). I know it's out there, just can't remember.

Could've put it in on Friday but I need the morning install so I have the "right light".. need an opening shot and maybe a cover shot. It's much faster when you don't have to shoot and document the whole process.

fatlife · #**224** 08-26-2006, 05:14 PM

So to say this whole magazine job thing is working out for you would be an understatement then?

**Steve1968LS2** · #**225** 08-26-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlife

So to say this whole magazine job thing is working out for you would be an understatement then?

Well, if you mean because I get to do what I love and get paid yes!

The cheap/free parts are nice too but to be honest I love doing Theory storys more than install stories.

It's a fun job but a LOT of work too. and every month is a new set of deadlines.

The best part is that I can actually call up the owners of large companies and pick thier brains for info. That's a BIG bonus.

race-rodz · #**226** 08-26-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2

Yea, but would my idea work out right for regular street tank vent system. Was thinking it might be a fix. I just bought a vent bung today that has a check valve in it (in case my car ends up "upside down". Now I want to find something to shut off the fule pump if it senses a certain number of g's (or whatever). I know it's out there, just can't remember.
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how about a tip over sensor off a bike, it will only cut power if it is layed almost 90* to the side or up-side-down.... most of them self reset, so you can tip it back over and finish your trackday

rockdogz · #**227** 08-27-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2

Could you take an Aeromotive fuel filter, empty out the element, plug the ends with mesh then fill it with activated charcol? This way it would be easy to plumb your vent line through it... would it work?

I havent had much luck finding charcol canisters except at the aquarium store. I have some extra aeromotive filters.. thoughts?

I built my own charcoal canister, but was worried that I was restricting the rate at which air flows back into the tank too much. Funny thing is, when I removed my homemade canister, the 2' or so of fuel line that loops up and around seems to have done the trick - I hardly smell gas at all anymore. Maybe the fumes can't travel down the looped line easily?

**Steve1968LS2** · #**228** 08-27-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by race-rodz

how about a tip over sensor off a bike, it will only cut power if it is layed almost 90* to the side or up-side-down.... most of them self reset, so you can tip it back over and finish your trackday

Where would you find one? Don't be tossing stuff like this out here without a link.. what were you thinking??!?!

fatlife · #**229** 08-27-2006, 10:35 AM

all the sportsbikes use them, if you want I can take a picture of one for you, and get you a part number. But it won't feel G's only if you tip it all the way over, so it would only work if the car flipped. They have about 3 wires coming out of them(not sure what they do) and mount easily with 2 bolts.

**Steve1968LS2** · #**230** 08-27-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlife

all the sportsbikes use them, if you want I can take a picture of one for you, and get you a part number. But it won't feel G's only if you tip it all the way over, so it would only work if the car flipped. They have about 3 wires coming out of them(not sure what they do) and mount easily with 2 bolts.

Well it's a start.. and if Im 90 over then I want it off. I thought I saw something (OEM??) that tripped if it sensed a certain G-force limit.

Kinda amazed nobody makes something like this.. seems like a no-brainer safety idea.