Reinventing the OneLapCamaro...

[James OLC]

Originally Posted by XLexusTech

James if you get a chance i would be keen to know you thoughts on road noise without the Dynamat.. its a great product but i am concerned about weight..

I think that it does a great job and part of me regrets taking it out. If we weren't chasing tenths right now it would stay in.

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Glad to see you guys stepping it up another level Jim.

Thanks - we're trying

Originally Posted by compos mentis

James,

Great thread.

Outsider looking in sees the a/c paying for the weight penalty by keeping you guys much less fatigued from the heat and therefore sharper behind the wheel.

Your thoughts?

It's been five years and I've never charged the system - I think we'll live

[Al Moreno]

WOW James, this car has really done a 360. Looks like it's evolving into the car you should had built from day one, LOL. Can't wait to see more!

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by James OLC

I think that it does a great job and part of me regrets taking it out. If we weren't chasing tenths right now it would stay in.



Thanks - we're trying



It's been five years and I've never charged the system - I think we'll live

Now I how tough Mary's really is, and she strips DynaMat!

[James OLC]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Now I how tough Mary's really is, and she strips DynaMat!

I have to tell you - and Mary will agree - that stripping Dynamat is probably the worst job either of us have ever done on the car. After the first day we were cut up, worn out, and just plain beat. There is no easy way to do it and anything that can kill a pair of mechanics wear gloves in a day is destroying your hands...

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by James OLC

I have to tell you - and Mary will agree - that stripping Dynamat is probably the worst job either of us have ever done on the car. After the first day we were cut up, worn out, and just plain beat. There is no easy way to do it and anything that can kill a pair of mechanics wear gloves in a day is destroying your hands...

After 36+ years in the flooring business I know exactly what you're talking about. Imagine if the DynaMat was stuck to plywood and the area was 20' x 35'.

It was a love hate thing when I installed it in my car, knowing what I know, I only did the floor and tunnel. Adding weight and knowing it may have to be removed some day kept me from getting too carried away.

Looking forward to the last hurrah for OLC.

[preston]

Dynamat and similar products do not really mask sound - they really are only for keeping a panel from resonating. In the case of well corrugated floor panels I'm not sure they are doing that much for us - they are much more necessary on door panels and such that have large un-braced flexible sheet metal. The trend in car audio is to use only a smattering of panel resonance (dynamat) type products usually no more than 25% coverage even on door panels (worst case).

to truly block noise requires complete coverage by a mass loaded barrier usually MLV. Good news, its easily removeable - bad news it weighs even more than dynamat.

Check out SoundDeadenerSolutions.com for the full skinny.

I think we in the muscle car community out of sheer desperation have probably been way over using dynamat. That being said I often go for pretty full coverage as well just because I will do anything to quiet my car down.

Of course dynamat will never tell you that. Their other products that are designed for noise transmission are good but again the enemy is weight.

Once you have stopped a panel from ringing, you don't need more dynamat unless you want the thermal protection, and there are better products for such.

What happened to that bad ass '69 Camaro that Rodger was building ? I thought that was the successor to this car ?

I have fully dynamatted my '92 Cadillac and my 2003 Dodge Ram and the difference was minimal, maybe 2db at cruise after a lot of work. Its surprising how little factory sound deadening there is on the panels and I think this is whay, most of them are pretty "corrugated". But, there is a lot of foam and deadening pads, and again this is becuase they absorb and deflect noise whcih dynamat type products do NOT.

[James OLC]

Dynamat surely has a place. We won't have it in most areas but there are some places that we just cant remove it from - right or wrong. For the right car I would still use it throughout (selecting from different products)...

The '69 is a whole other deal. It's coming home soon and I'll work to get it done for next year.

[Ron in SoCal]

James congrats on the progress!

Question for you....you said in the update post you were going with Holly Dominator EFI and Davis TC. Curious why you didn't go Terminator? I believe it intergates TC but not sure it can handle your HP level?

[fleet]

James,

Ok, like you said, you haven't charged the a/c in 5 years.

Git 'er out.

[James OLC]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

James congrats on the progress!

Question for you....you said in the update post you were going with Holly Dominator EFI and Davis TC. Curious why you didn't go Terminator? I believe it intergates TC but not sure it can handle your HP level?

Holley has a couple of great EFI options - the HP and the Dominator - that would've have worked for us (the Terminator is a 4150 TB style system). I chose the dominator for a couple of reasons... The Dominator allows for up to 4 tunes to be stored in the ECM which allows us some flexibility... the Dominator allows for DBW which might be desirable for advanced TC functions... Plus We might add a power adder and the Dominator is perfect for that...

Davis makes a TC system which is specifically designed to work with the Dominator and HP systems by Holley and is a straight plug and play solution.