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Originally Posted by FETorino
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Hm the bottom one has a Watts link the guy on the top was two cheap to go that route. That is what I see.  |
Ahh but why go for the full monty when it only takes the half monty to take out a little(not) Torino?
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Originally Posted by GregWeld
Think of it more as..... "weight savings". Yeah! That's it!
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Greg, you're smarter than you look.
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Originally Posted by Payton King
on the TA is the support rods that run from the top of the housing down to the the TA. I do see what you are saying in that you would use the support rods to set pinion angle. I would assume that Jake set pinion angle before he welded tabs on the tubes and shock/lower control arm mounts.
It may have a sperical bearing,but I would not know.
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Originally Posted by GrabberGT
Looks awesome. Just curious, do you know how much the torque arm itself weighs? I'd love to get mine trimmed down from 48lbs. its unsprung weight but still...  |
Thank you. Have not weighed the torque arm itself. The torque arm is mostly unsprung but not all of it. And Jake's question/response to this is: Do you really want to have the torque arm break over a 5 extra pounds that are low on the car and between the wheels and axles? I agree with that response. I am personally not building a 2200 lb race car here with carbon fiber everything and aluminum this and that.
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Originally Posted by carbuff
I actually asked Dave the same question about the torque arm mounts. You can see how my JRS setup did them in this picture (the picture is upside down, so the 2 tabs on the top are where the torque arm mounts):
There are bolts that go through the TA parallel to the axle tubes. Here's a good shot of those:
Looking at the pictures of Dave's setup, I think that he's going to use the mechanism that bolts to the pinion support to set the pinion angle instead of using the rods that go to the top. I could be wrong, but that looks like what the 2 bolts through the torque arm are for. Also I don't see the tabs on top of the housing for those rods like mine has...
I am curious why Jake changed the mounting points, but I'm sure there was a good reason... |
As Aarik mentioned, you have the earlier single shear it appears. And you are correct I am using the double shear with the pinion support bolted. The configuration I have has been tested and proven to withstand countless track days at 700hp level so that sounded good for me.
Also, those 2 bars that run to the top of the housing are super tight in a first gen Jake says. More room available in a 2nd gen as Bryan has, and even Bryan had some work to do to make that fit.
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Originally Posted by Hugger67RSSS
Jake sets the pinion angle into the lower trailing arm brackets when they are welded onto the rear end. As long as your shocks are plum you will be good to go.
My TA is installed the same way Dave, I'm not sure what style mount you have but I have a bracket that bolts to the pinion support to lock the rear end in place also. I know some of his older design used the two bars that Payton mentioned running to the top of the housing. I can see the bolts sticking out of your TA in front of the rear housing.
Bryan, You have the older style. His new design is double shear like mine and Dave's. I am not sure how long ago the design changed but mine was that way originally and I welded the new tabs onto the housing before I installed it. He changed the TA mount to double shear to increase strength.
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Sounds like we have the same configuration, Aarik. What power level will you be at?
I like that Jake's torque arm has been through destructive testing (unintended, and on the track!) and between Telly's TA, Vinny's 69 and Jake's former (now Vinny's) AIX 2nd gen, he has come up with changes and upgrades over time to improve it and provide options. This is a big reason I preferred and chose this setup.
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